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Justin Frakes
Film Handler

Posts: 20
From: New Boston, IL, USA
Registered: May 2018


 - posted 06-22-2019 04:18 PM      Profile for Justin Frakes   Email Justin Frakes   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hello again, this year it has been one thing breaking after another. I pulled my scope lens out today and there is a crack in the first glass lens. I'll post some pics of the lens. Thanks for everyone's help.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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From: Music City
Registered: Jun 99


 - posted 06-22-2019 04:24 PM      Profile for Mark Gulbrandsen   Email Mark Gulbrandsen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
What kind of light source are you using. Improperly focused igh intensity light could crack those. As far as replacement glass, those are not paper weights. Look on Epay and get replacement lenses there. Schneider or ISCO would be much better.

Mark

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Justin Frakes
Film Handler

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From: New Boston, IL, USA
Registered: May 2018


 - posted 06-23-2019 08:21 AM      Profile for Justin Frakes   Email Justin Frakes   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
4500w xenon lamp, what am I looking for? Are those numbers on the ring the identifiers for that piece of glass? Thanks I haven't ever had to mess with the lens too much.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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 - posted 06-23-2019 11:03 AM      Profile for Mark Gulbrandsen   Email Mark Gulbrandsen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Be sure you have a heat filter in place! The backup is a 100mm lens and The scope lens is a 2X. Look for Schneider or Isco as they are air spaced and not cemented groups. They take heat better, but you still need to have the lamp properly set up and focused accurately. Any hot spots or unevenness in the light when running no film dictate a need for lamp house/lamp alignment. ALSO, NEVER RUN THE WHITE LIGHT MORE THAN 30 SECONDS AT A TIME WITHOUT ALLOWING THE LENS TO COOL!! Run the projector when ever viewing white light! Running the projector cuts the light level roughly in half.

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Jonathan Wood
Expert Film Handler

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From: Oxfordshire, United kingdom
Registered: Jan 2008


 - posted 06-23-2019 11:22 AM      Profile for Jonathan Wood   Email Jonathan Wood   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I agree with Mark, I’d replace rather than try to repair . I’ve always thought Iscos had the edge in terms of sharpness and colour . There are usually a good selection on eBay although prices have gone up due to use on DSLRs

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Marcel Birgelen
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From: Maastricht, Limburg, Netherlands
Registered: Feb 2012


 - posted 06-23-2019 05:11 PM      Profile for Marcel Birgelen   Email Marcel Birgelen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
As for finding a replacement glass for your lens... I doubt it will ever happen, even if the fractured glass itself is just a simple, spherical one. Maybe if you have the exact focal lengths and type of glass and coatings used in the lens assembly, you might find a spare somewhere...

When it comes down to anamorphic lenses, nothing beats ISCO at the moment, although they do come at a hefty price.

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Helmut Maripuu
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From: Västerås Västmanland Sweden
Registered: Mar 2004


 - posted 07-01-2019 09:30 AM      Profile for Helmut Maripuu   Email Helmut Maripuu   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Paper tape between the lens and the lens holder? woov! Overheating?

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Louis Bornwasser
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From: prospect ky usa
Registered: Mar 2005


 - posted 07-31-2019 03:52 PM      Profile for Louis Bornwasser   Author's Homepage   Email Louis Bornwasser   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Replace very bad lenses; increase light. Then reduce rectifier to reduce heat.

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Emiel De Jong
Film Handler

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From: Geldrop The Netherlands
Registered: Mar 2007


 - posted 08-01-2019 05:51 AM      Profile for Emiel De Jong   Email Emiel De Jong   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
It looks like the scope attachment is still intact, only the backup lens is cracked (the Berthiot 100mm) ? You can remove the backup lens from the scope attachment, and replace it with any brand (Isco, Schneider, Sankor even Berthiot etc.) 100mm lens, I guess diameter 62,5 mm. This should be possible for some 10 - 40 dollars on Ebay I guess. Of course it would be a tremendous improvement in picture quality when you get some better lenses; the Berthiot is an antique, the Sankor scope attachment quite bad.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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 - posted 08-01-2019 07:17 AM      Profile for Mark Gulbrandsen   Email Mark Gulbrandsen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Either way, both those lenses are coke bottles, especially that scope lens! I would get some inexpensive Schneiders on Epay to replace them and finally enjoy nice sharp images.

Mark

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