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Author Topic: DVD pauses after the 3rd reel Laurence Till Film Handler Posts: 6 From: Manville, RI 02838 Registered: Feb 2000 posted 03-11-2003 03:41 PM                     Has anyone else noticed that when viewing a DVD there is a pause after the 3rd reel (after approx. 60 minutes)? It only indicates to me that the studios are having techno-nerds converting to the DVD format and not projectionists. I just wanted to know if it upsets anyone else as much as it upsets me. You pay a very high price to own a film and see that you could make a better presentation of the flick than some guy who doesn't seem to have a clue about change overs. That's my gripe. Thanks for reading. If you feel the same way and have noticed this apparent flaw in DVD technology, please voice your views.  |  IP: Logged David Stambaugh Film God Posts: 4021 From: Eugene, Oregon Registered: Jan 2002 posted 03-11-2003 03:44 PM                        Are you talking about a brief "freeze" in the action, like a fraction of a second? That's probably the layer transition. Don't all dual-layer DVDs do that when the transition is made from one layer to the other? Some players make the layer change more quickly, but as far as I've read, the pause is unavoidable.  |  IP: Logged Joe Beres Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 606 From: Minneapolis, MN, USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 03-11-2003 03:49 PM                     Laurence, Chances are, you are actually seeing your DVD player switching the layer it is reading off of the disc rather than a bad transfer or digitization process. It seems to be an issue no matter how good a player you have as well. It is annoying though. EDIT: Um, yeah, what David said, His post wasn't there when I hit reply.  |  IP: Logged Adam Martin I'm not even gonna point out the irony. Posts: 3686 From: Dallas, TX Registered: Nov 2000 posted 03-11-2003 04:05 PM                     Yes, layer change. It can happen at any point in the movie, not just halfway through. It all depends on what else is on the disc (extras, etc.)  |  IP: Logged Mark Ogden Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 943 From: Little Falls, N.J. Registered: Jun 99 posted 03-11-2003 04:38 PM                     A quick way to tell is to check the DVD packaging for the letters "RSDL" (reverse spiral dual layer). If you see those, there's no doubt that at some point the DVD will freeze for a moment.  |  IP: Logged Daryl C. W. O'Shea Film God Posts: 3977 From: Midland Ontario Canada (where Panavision & IMAX lenses come from) Registered: Jun 2002 posted 03-11-2003 04:42 PM                        There are some dual laser players that can do seemless layer transitions. I know JVC has one, but I can't remember what model number it is -- I haven't used it in a couple years and don't have it here.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 03-11-2003 04:43 PM                        It's really bad when watching a DTS DVD, as for some reason it seems to take longer for the sound to restore itself than when in Dolby Digital. DTS on DVD seems to be an afterthought.  |  IP: Logged Darryl Spicer Film God Posts: 3250 From: Lexington, KY, USA Registered: Dec 2000 posted 03-11-2003 04:55 PM                    I guess when one complains about that brief freeze they never have experienced a side change on a laser disc player. Some players do perform this task much quicker. What needs to be developed is a way for the DVD player to store the information for a few seconds at the layer change so that when the next layer picks up it will be like a seemless action. You would never know that this change occured.  |  IP: Logged Paul Goulet Master Film Handler Posts: 347 From: Rhode Island Registered: Jan 2000 posted 03-11-2003 04:57 PM                        Laurence: Thats cuzz you buy cheap-O DVDS... P.S. Did you get my Fish money??  |  IP: Logged Michael Coate Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1904 From: Los Angeles, California Registered: Feb 2001 posted 03-11-2003 05:05 PM                     So the picture freezes for a couple seconds...big deal. Some of us remember having to get up and physically turn over a laserdisc. And the "auto-flip" players still took longer to switch sides than a DVD layer change. And before that, commercial interruptions on TV. A small price to pay for getting a complete movie in a high-quality format. Get over it! To the original poster who dislikes these layer-changes (now that he knows that's what they are), there are a number of DVDs of movies with long running times released that are split across two sides. So...if, for instance, you want The Color Purple, but don't want to see the image freeze for a couple seconds, then buy the earlier version. If you can get up out of your seat, eject the disc, turn it over, and press play in less time than the layer change, let me know. I'd be impressed.  |  IP: Logged Greg Mueller Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1687 From: Port Gamble, WA Registered: Jun 99 posted 03-11-2003 05:24 PM                        I have the "layer change freeze for a second" thing to, but sometimes it freezes at other points as well. The next time I play the DVD it doesn't do it. I can imagine the laser running along burning debris out of the way..... Maybe it's dust or something?  |  IP: Logged Darryl Spicer Film God Posts: 3250 From: Lexington, KY, USA Registered: Dec 2000 posted 03-11-2003 07:05 PM                    Let me say this DO NOT TREAT YOUR DVD'S LIKE CD'S. Do not scratch them do not get finger prints on them or it will screw things up like crazy. Just a little fleck could cause your player to freeze if it interupts the laser. Also do not put anything on top of your DVD player. It will cause it to overheat causing problems and unwanted side effects.  |  IP: Logged Mike Olpin Chop Chop! Posts: 1852 From: Dallas, TX Registered: Jan 2002 posted 03-11-2003 08:37 PM                     Buy a better DVD player that transitions layers quicker. I think it's great that the DVD engineeres put the layer change at the same point as a reel change. Imagine what it would look/sound like if the change occcured mid-sceene.  |  IP: Logged Bill Gabel Film God Posts: 3873 From: Technicolor / Postworks NY, USA Registered: Jan 2002 posted 03-11-2003 08:56 PM                     Mike wrote: quote: layer change at the same point as a reel change. Imagine what it would look/sound like if the change occured mid scene. Sometimes its at a reel change. But it can happen anytime on the disc. Just like in past posts on this thread have said. It does happen mid-scene. Watch the movie "What's Love Got to Do With It" The change on that disc happens just before a song happens. Tina is going on stage and the change happens, so you have a break in the soundtrack.  |  IP: Logged Adam Martin I'm not even gonna point out the irony. Posts: 3686 From: Dallas, TX Registered: Nov 2000 posted 03-12-2003 01:51 AM                     Typically, a layer transition will occur at a chapter change.  |  IP: Logged

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