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Topic: Sony Betamax RIP
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John Pytlak
Film God
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From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 08-29-2002 12:34 PM
Story from Medialine Magazine:The Betamax VCR: 1975-2002 "(August 28, 2002) Tokyo -- Sony Corp. has announced that it will make only 2,000 more consumer Betamax videotape recorders before discontinuing its 27-year old format later this year... The company listed new digital recording formats as the official killer of Beta, stating that the likes of recordable DVD have precipitated a final decline in demand, making it "difficult to secure parts" for Betamax machines... Sony reported shipments of 2,800 machines in its 2001 fiscal year, which ended in March; the total number of recorders produced over the format's lifetime will top 18 million..." Link to full story: http://www.medialinenews.com/issues/2002/august/news0828_3.shtml ------------------ John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7525A Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA Tel: +1 585 477 5325 Cell: +1 585 781 4036 Fax: +1 585 722 7243 e-mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com Web site: http://www.kodak.com/go/motion
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Paul G. Thompson
The Weenie Man
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From: Mount Vernon WA USA
Registered: Nov 2000
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posted 08-29-2002 03:31 PM
Leo, it is true many people have a rather large collection of VHS tapes at home, including myself. However, since DVD came along, I have been told the VHS tape sales have been dropping, and DVD sales have been rising. It makes sense. The last trip I made to a video store, their DVD line has increased, and the VHS line shrunk a little. I think we will see the fall of VHS when the studios decide to drop that line just like the record industry did to the old vinyl records when the CD's came out. The transition took about a year before all the record stores up in this area discontinued stocking the black vinyl analog disk. Good quality turntables are very expensive today, although they still can be obtained. They are practially a specialty item.
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Brad Miller
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From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
Registered: May 99
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posted 08-30-2002 01:40 AM
I'm hardly an expert on this and don't have any lab-based factual evidence to back up what I will type here, but hey...I'll comment! I have VHS tapes that are 20 years old that still play well, and tapes that are 20 years old that won't play well at all. The correlation? Scotch/3M tapes have held up, others have not. Also the tapes at SP speed play much better than the SLP/EP speed (which is obvious as to the reason why). Fortunately for me 99% of my tape collection is on 3M stock and most of it plays fine. However my early HiFi recordings do seem to have "issues". The tapes I made on my Panasonic PV-1730 machines at SP still track perfectly, but HiFi tapes made on any other machine are littered with noise in the audio. Bottom line: buy quality equipment and quality tapes if you want your recordings to last.
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Leo Enticknap
Film God
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From: Loma Linda, CA
Registered: Jul 2000
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posted 08-30-2002 09:12 AM
Betamax was a component system as distinct from a composite one, i.e. the luminance (Y) and chrominance (C) signal is recorded separately. Yes, the quality was a lot higher than VHS.The physical cassettes were identical to Betacam, Betacam SP and Digibeta cassettes of the smaller of the two sizes (i.e. the ones which hold up to 30 minutes on a PAL Beta SP). However, the tape ran a lot more slowly, with the result that you can get a lot more running time on each tape. I still have a Sony Betamax VCR. A friend in a regional TV studio gave me a consignment of about 150 Betacam (not SP) 30-minute blanks when they upgraded to SP and would otherwise have put the tapes in a skip. On a 30 minute Betacam tape you can record 3 hours 15 minutes of Betamax. I still get the machine out every now and again, to transfer material recorded on it to MPEG - usually irreplacable stuff recorded off-air. Played through a Trinitron monitor, I'd say from just looking at it that the picture quality is almost as good as S-VHS - certainly much better than normal composite VHS. We have around 300 reels of 1" C format in our collection, but, thank goodness, no 2" quadruplex. The BBC central archives in Brentford have, I am told, over 30,000 reels of 2".
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Chad Souder
Jedi Master Film Handler
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From: Waterloo, IA, USA
Registered: Feb 2000
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posted 08-30-2002 10:39 AM
Paul -You can still get records of pretty much anything, you just have to order. When I was in Germany in '92, their record collection at their music stores was bigger than their tape and CD collection combined, and this was not a specialty music store (okay, I'll give you that it was 10 years ago). The reason the vinyl industry has survived and, like Leo said, you can get turntables still, is because of the hard core audiophiles that believe records sound better than CD's. Nobody likes tapes better, so they're almost dead. Nobody likes VHS better than DVD, so they'll die within 5 years too. DVD players are getting so cheap, you can't build a VCR cheap enough to make people want them. Tivo and PVR's are slowly overtaking the home-recording market. The interesting thing is, if Sony hadn't been so selfish with Beta, VHS would of lost that war, and everyone would have had Beta in their living room rather than VHS. ------------------ "Asleep at the switch? I wasn't asleep, I was drunk!" - Homer Simpson
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