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Topic: Star Wars Ep IV audio mixing errors
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Mark J. Marshall
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posted 09-21-2004 02:53 PM
I've been listening to Empire play here at work, and I've noticed several audio changes just by letting it play in the background. Han's line "I dunno how we're gonna get outta this one" right before the Falcon gets hit by an asteroid has been tweaked awkwardly for example.
But there have also been a couple of positive changes too. For example, when Luke says "I feel like..." Yoda says "Feel like what?" and Luke spins around, Yoda's "AH!" is back. It was removed for the Special Edition. That example is something that illustrates how sound effects and dialoge can have a musical rhythm to them, and when that "AH!" was removed, it totally screwed up the rhythm of that scene for me when I listened to it. I'm glad it's back.
I know they aren't errors, but the first is definitely awkward the way it sounds now... at least it is to me. The 2nd WAS awkward, but it sounds better now. I could go on and on, but I'll spare everyone of my "nit-pickiness"... for now anyway.
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Aaron Garman
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posted 09-21-2004 11:56 PM
Actually, that quote from Bits about where the music dies in the assault on the Death Star is slightly wrong. It is the musical cue after Red Leader says, "I'm gonna cut across their axis and try and control their fire." The music at that point has ALWAYS hit a crescendo...even more evident when just listening to the soundtrack on CD. Either way, I HATED how that is either changed or botched.
As for the flipped surrounds, I didn't notice it upon my first viewing but probably will if I view it again. If this really is the case, big mistake and an exchange should be offered.
One thing I absolutely loved was how Vader's voice is cleaned up very well in ANH. It really made him more menacing, which is the intention.
Finally, I think we will eventually get the original versions in some form, sometime after Episode III, especially if their is an outcry over these versions of the film.
AJG
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Aaron Garman
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posted 09-22-2004 07:07 AM
I too have the 97 LD release, so I did a little comparison of a couple scenes at the end. The surround channels are flipped for sure during the throne scene, but you have to listen really closely to hear it. It is weird, but only weird when comparing it to the 97 release. In fact, based on my early observations, the 97 mix seemed more balanced than this new mix on DVD, which at times seems a little harsh. I'm going to check some more scenes later to test this theory. Actually, I know Gary Rydstrom did the mix or at least had a hand in it in 1997, does anyone know if he did for the new DVD? Could this account for the possible harshness?
Of course, this is all in reference to A New Hope.
AJG
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