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Author Topic: Projectors for DVD's Larry Myers Master Film Handler Posts: 371 From: Herndon, VA, USA Registered: Jan 2001 posted 03-17-2005 06:20 PM                 I am interested in purchasing a DPL projecter to project only DVD's. Two projectors I kind of like because of the high contrast ratings of over 2000:1. Both are Dells. The model 1100MP is rated at 800x600 resolution for about $800 and the 2300MP rated at 1024x768 resolution for about $1300. Since DVD's are 800x480, is the $800 unit a better buy for me? Larry [ 03-17-2005, 07:38 PM: Message edited by: Larry Myers ]  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 03-17-2005 07:31 PM                        DVD's are 720x480. Other than that I don't know too much about projectors, besides their lack of true HDTV capabiltiy (which you don't need).  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 03-17-2005 08:05 PM                     Dell projectors are primarily designed for computing purposes, such as Powerpoint presentations and such for a board room audience. Such projectors are not really designed in mind for home theater, in spite of the DLP chips inside of some. I don't find their pictures nearly as bright as a home theater oriented video projector. Granted, you're probably going to pay a good bit more for a real home theater video projector. On the upside, such products give you imagery closer to HD (at least the 720p version of it anyway) and perhaps in 16:9 ratio.  |  IP: Logged Tao Yue Expert Film Handler Posts: 209 From: Princeton, NJ Registered: Apr 2001 posted 03-17-2005 10:05 PM                        800/16*9 = 450, so an 800x600 projector will be downsampling vertically for 16x9 DVDs. (Some people go out and get a 1.33x anamorphic lens to solve this problem, but the lens can easily cost as much as the projector and one might as well get a projector with a native 16x9 chip.)  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 03-18-2005 12:06 AM                        Can video projectors automatically snap back and forth between 4:3 and 16:9 as required? My TV can do that, as long as there is a 16:9 flag in the video. Projectors are extremely weird, so I'm not sure about them.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 03-18-2005 12:09 AM                     What is your budget?  |  IP: Logged Scott Norwood Film God Posts: 8146 From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 03-18-2005 06:03 AM                        Joe--a CRT projector can do that (just as a CRT monitor can) without losing resolution by changing the pattern of the scanning beam. DLP or LCD projectors use a fixed array of "pixels" and can't change image shape from the "native" configuration without either losing resolution or moving a different lens into place. Unfortunately, CRT projectors are expensive and the image isn't very bright. In most cases, LCD or DLP would be a better choice for home use, unless you have a light-tight room and gain screen.  |  IP: Logged Phil Hill I love my cootie bug Posts: 7595 From: Hollywood, CA USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 03-18-2005 06:08 AM                  Scott, WTF RU doing up so early? OBTW: Sony VPH-1252's rule! Hubba Hubba!  |  IP: Logged Larry Myers Master Film Handler Posts: 371 From: Herndon, VA, USA Registered: Jan 2001 posted 03-18-2005 11:36 AM                 Hi What I think you are saying is, you can't get max resolution from an anamorphic DVD DLP project image unless you use a Anamorphic lens. So if you set the DVD player to give you an anamorphic image, there is no way to adjust the projector to unsqueeze the image like in a wide screen TV. I am more or less trying to figure out what a $2000 machine buys you vs a $1000 machine and if I want to get a DVD projector in the first place. Larry  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 03-18-2005 12:00 PM                     You're going to have to spend more than $2000 to get a good DLP projector, unless you go to the used market and get an industrial model with a couple of years on it.  |  IP: Logged John Pytlak Film God Posts: 9987 From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922 Registered: Jan 2000 posted 03-18-2005 12:59 PM                        quote: Brad Miller You're going to have to spend more than $2000 to get a good DLP projector, unless you go to the used market and get an industrial model with a couple of years on it. And that's for a single chip projector, which has the rotating color filter wheel that can sometimes have the "rainbow effect": http://hometheater.about.com/cs/television/a/aavprojectora_4.htm  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 03-18-2005 01:27 PM                        Have they solved the rainbow effect? I have been telling people to avoid DLP due to it's fabulous rainbow effect.  |  IP: Logged Larry Myers Master Film Handler Posts: 371 From: Herndon, VA, USA Registered: Jan 2001 posted 03-18-2005 02:01 PM                 Hi I am not trying to dup film here. I am just wondering just how good you can get a DVD/Digital projector setup vs cost. On ebay, I actually see PRO digital theater projectors come up for sale every so often. They say originally $32,000 with an opening bid of $12,000 and maybe a "Buy it Now" for $21,500. There must be another 3000 digital projectors on ebay ranging from around $800 to about $6000 with a few in the $10,000 range. Some new in the box and others are up to 4 years old. Are any of these any good and would they at least match a typical $15 DVD resolution for resolution? Larry  |  IP: Logged Scott Norwood Film God Posts: 8146 From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 03-18-2005 02:15 PM                        Rainbow effect only applies to single-chip DLP systems. The 3-chip machines don't have that issue. Some people notice it more than others. It doesn't bother me, personally, though I have noticed it more with B&W source material and with some video projectors more than others. Obviously, the 3-chip configuration is far preferably, but as far as I know, the "home" DLP machines are all single-chip models.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 03-18-2005 06:19 PM                        You could use an overhead projector to watch movies on like we discussed HERE.  |  IP: Logged

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