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Author Topic: OMG they showed Star Warz 2 in HD on TV 2nite LOL! Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 05-22-2005 08:23 PM                        The only time I ever watch Fox is when MadTV comes on. During one of the commercials (which I mute) I saw that they were showing Episode 2 tonight. I figured they'd be broadcasting it in HDTV 720p. I decided to check out about 10 or 15 minutes worth, and it is indeed cropped 720p (sides are cut off, aspect is limited to 16:9). Amazingly, it really doesn't look much, if any better than the DVD. Since it is being broadcast, that means there are more noticeable artifacts since the broadcast industry is no longer "professional" in regards to their presentation standards. But the 5.1 Dolby Digital EX sounded the same as the DVD... I think. Actually I don't remember hearing any left surround. At least they cut out Anakin's "I don't like sand" shlock.  |  IP: Logged David Stambaugh Film God Posts: 4021 From: Eugene, Oregon Registered: Jan 2002 posted 05-22-2005 09:27 PM                        The picture looks like it's barely DVD quality. The sound is great. No FOX logo in the corner though. The power of George!  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 05-22-2005 10:08 PM                        Hmm... Jesse Skeen must have watched that!  |  IP: Logged David Stambaugh Film God Posts: 4021 From: Eugene, Oregon Registered: Jan 2002 posted 05-23-2005 12:09 PM                        I watched about 45 mins or so of it last night. There is NO WAY that was HD. There were very obvious digital artifacts that usually aren't seen even in DVDs, including posterization. The best that can be said about the image is it was 16:9 (and didn't have the FOX bug), and that's not saying much because George likes to use the entire scope frame and it was very obvious that stuff was being cropped.  |  IP: Logged Paul Mayer Oh get out of it Melvin, before it pulls you under! Posts: 3836 From: Albuquerque, NM Registered: Feb 2000 posted 05-23-2005 03:58 PM                        I watched a few minutes of it too, on good ol' SD 4:3 in stereo no less.  |  IP: Logged Joshua Waaland Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 800 From: Cleveland, Ohio Registered: Dec 1999 posted 05-23-2005 05:17 PM                     I have a 51" HDTV and I tuned into the HD channel of Fox. The commercials were in 4:3 but the movie took up the entire screen. I agree though that it wasn't in HD. I commented to my wife several times that the quality wasn't that great. I figured with George being so adamant about picture quality that it would for sure be in HD.  |  IP: Logged Ian Price Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1714 From: Denver, CO Registered: Jun 99 posted 05-23-2005 05:21 PM                     I suspect that they just ran the DVD so the source material wasn't HD even though the channel was. I think they just up-res the source material and send it out.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 05-23-2005 05:49 PM                        They would have had to have a special DVD without letterbox bars yet still 16:9.  |  IP: Logged Lyle Romer Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1400 From: Davie, FL, USA Registered: May 2002 posted 05-23-2005 06:06 PM                     quote: Joe Redifer They would have had to have a special DVD without letterbox bars yet still 16:9. Why would they need a special DVD? My Mitsubishi TV can "expand" and letterboxed DVD I play to fill the screen and crop the sides. I never do it, but I've played around with it.  |  IP: Logged Mike Heenan Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1896 From: Scottsdale, AZ, USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 05-23-2005 06:38 PM                     Here's what I don't get about the 16:9 thing on dvds (for scope films that is), they're cropped when you watch them 16:9 on your widescreen tv right? How much of a difference quality wise is there watching a dvd in 16:9 vs watching it normally with the black bars?  |  IP: Logged Lyle Romer Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1400 From: Davie, FL, USA Registered: May 2002 posted 05-23-2005 07:49 PM                     Assuming the same screen width (not diagonal), it would be the exact same. I guess it looks a little better because it has smaller lines so you aren't "wasting" as much screen area.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 05-23-2005 09:53 PM                        Mike, scope films are still letterboxed on 16:9 TVs, just less so. There is still much more vertical resolution with an anamorphic DVD than there is when you watch it letterboxed on a 4:3 set.  |  IP: Logged Joshua Waaland Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 800 From: Cleveland, Ohio Registered: Dec 1999 posted 05-24-2005 06:47 AM                     I was a little disappointed when I got my widescreen tv and tried to watch a widescreen dvd and it still had black bars. Why do they do this? By the way when are the HD-DVD's coming out?  |  IP: Logged John Lasher Master Film Handler Posts: 493 From: Newark, DE Registered: Aug 2001 posted 05-24-2005 02:23 PM                        There are 3 possibilities that come to mind offhand. a) Your DVD player is set up improperly, refer to the instruction manual and make sure it's set properly for your widescreen TV. b) You were watching a 'Scope movie, in which case it should still have black bars (they'll just be smaller black bars) c) The transfer on your DVD is non-anamorphic (Either done for LaserDisc, or from one of those cheap-ass companies like MTI) in which case you can either set your TV so it displays the picture with black on all four sides, or zoom in, which will degrade the perceived image quality.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 05-24-2005 06:12 PM                        Yeah Joshie, your TV ain't be as wide as a scope movie screen yo.  |  IP: Logged

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