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Author Topic: HD set up question Claude S. Ayakawa Film God Posts: 2738 From: Waipahu, Hawaii, USA Registered: Aug 2002 posted 03-18-2009 02:06 PM                        I will finally be picking up my first HD set this weekend but it will not be the set I was planning to get. I really wanted a set with a larger picture but because of budget consideration, I will pick up a set with a screen size smaller than thirty inch. It is a Samsung with full 1080p with two HDMI inputs. The set will only be temporary until perhaps this summer when I will replace it with a larger set. The question I have is the set up. Right now, my Blu Ray player is hooked up directly to my Denon receiver that does not have any HDMI inputs with a Optical Digital cable for the sound and a Video RCA cable for the picture. The video and audio cable from my DVR is also connected to my receiver. All I know right now is to connect a HDMI cable from the BD player and a HD DVR to the set. I assume the optical cable from the BD to the receiver connection remain the same as well as the audio from the HD DVR to the receiver with the RCA cables. According to the manual, I will have to make an on screen adjustment that my video will be from the HDMI output to the TV, is that right? In addition to all that, I will also have to readjust my ability to watch wide screen images on a standard screen to a 16X9 display. That will be no problem because I know how to do that. Is everything I had mentioned correct or do I need to do more? -Claude  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 03-18-2009 03:45 PM                     I would feed the HDMI cables from the Blu-ray player and HD DVR directly into the TV set. Use optical audio cables to connect the Blu-ray player and HD DVR to your Denon receiver. Some HDMI-equipped devices (such as Playstation 3) can auto-detect the best settings for your TV and apply them. Others may require you to choose 720p, 1080i or 1080p manually.  |  IP: Logged Mike Schindler Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1039 From: Oak Park, IL, USA Registered: Jun 2002 posted 03-18-2009 03:51 PM                     For devices that only output 1080i or 720p, which is the better option for a 1080p display? I'd assume it 1080i, correct?  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 03-18-2009 04:04 PM                     If it's a small screen sometimes 720p works better. We have a modest sized LCD-TV on the wall in our conference room. During a company party I hooked my PS3 to it and got better results selecting 720p than 1080i. With the 1080i setting the TV had a strange flicker to it. I'm sure this will vary from one model to the next.  |  IP: Logged Claude S. Ayakawa Film God Posts: 2738 From: Waipahu, Hawaii, USA Registered: Aug 2002 posted 03-18-2009 07:23 PM                        Bobby, Costco where I plan to pick up a 1080p Samsung HDTV has a Sony with a 720p display with a slightly larger screen. I prefer that to the Samsung but was deterred by the the fact it was not 1080p. The price for both is about the same and so is the picture quality. Should I get the Sony instead? -Claude  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 03-18-2009 10:02 PM                     I would probably still get the 1080p Samsung TV. Sure, you won't see the benefits of 1080p at typical viewing distances in a medium sized living room. However, smaller televisions can be useful as secondary TVs that are viewed at closer distances in kitchens, bedrooms or even home offices with the TV doubling as a computer monitor.  |  IP: Logged Claude S. Ayakawa Film God Posts: 2738 From: Waipahu, Hawaii, USA Registered: Aug 2002 posted 03-21-2009 03:03 PM                        I finally bought a HDTV. Not the screen size I had hope to buy due to budget constraint but one that is more than adequate for my need. It is a 26 inch Samsung and yes, 1080p! I was also able to buy a set of two eight foot long HDMI cables for about $49.00. After buying my set and cables at Costco on Thursday and setting it up yesterday morning, I was at Best Buy that afternoon and made a interesting discovery. Almost all of the sets larger than thirty inch was 1080p but screen sizes smaller were not including all of the Samsung they had on display. All of the models with the same size screen as mine with a 720p display also cost about $50.00 more than what I paid that has 1080p. I can see the intention of Best Buy and stores like them to carry set with 1080p only on larger screen models and not the small stuff because they can make more money from HD sales from people looking for a set that has it. I guess it pays to have Retailers like Costco and Sam's Club that offers consumers what they want at better prices. Setting up my HD set and my new HDDVR was easy and I did not have to make any changes to my Blu Ray player after it was set up to display a wide screen image on my standard television set. The only problem I encountered was the use of the HTMI cable with my HDDVR. After consulting with my cable company, they told me some people have problem with HDMI and suggested that I used the RBG cable they had provided and I did and everything worked great. In a way that is wonderful because I now have an extra HDMI input on the set I could use for something else. I do not know if there is anything I can do but the only thing I notice when I play old movies with a 1,33:1 aspect ration is an image that fills the entire screen. All the pictures with a scope ratio look normal. Even PINOCCHIO looks different. It is still windowboxed (BLack Borders all around the picture). Instead of a 1,33:1 ratio, I am getting a picture that look like it is !, 85:1. Is there a way I can correct this problem and see view scope pictures in their proper ratio? I am more than pleased with my new Samsung HD set and thank you guys for insisting that I get one that has a 1080p display. I can truly see the difference especially BARAKA that looks like I am watching it in it's original 70mm format. What an awesome picture! -Claude  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 03-21-2009 05:50 PM                     I guess I'm a little confused about what is causing certain movies to appear window-boxed. Check the video output settings on your HD DVR and Blu-ray player. Make sure they're not trying to send a 480p based image. The Blu-ray player should be set at 1080p output, if the HDMI connection didn't make it change to that setting automatically. The HD DVR should be sending 720p and/or 1080i imagery. My Dish Network ViP722 DVR has to be manually set for either 720p or 1080i. It doesn't have native HD signal pass through. Certain networks like ESPN, FOX and ABC broadcast in 720p while most others broadcast in 1080i. Also make sure the TV is set in the proper picture mode. For HD content it should be set in a "normal," "standard" or "full" mode. The verbiage Samsung uses may vary. Most new HDTV sets have two more stretch and zoom modes for hiding the black bars on pillar-boxed standard definition video and letter-boxed movies.  |  IP: Logged Claude S. Ayakawa Film God Posts: 2738 From: Waipahu, Hawaii, USA Registered: Aug 2002 posted 03-21-2009 06:40 PM                        Bobby, I did not check the output on my Blu Ray player for 1080p playback because the image from the BDs I playyed last night all look gorgeous. Is it possible that I am marveling at a 720p picture because the player is now in that setting and I have small screen? i will check my BD player when I go home this evening. If it is not in the 1080p setting that is wonderful because the picture will be better after I had made the setting correction. By the way, the Panasonic BD35 player I have is fantastic because the uploading of a standard DVD image to 1080p is just wonderful! The picture quality now look a hell of a lot better than from my old TV. -Claude  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 03-21-2009 08:33 PM                     Chances are the Panasonic BD player is automatically adjusting itself to 1080p output based on the data it exchanges with your TV. But it would be a good idea to double check the setting. DVRs may not do the same auto-adjust trick when connected to the TV via HDMI cables. You're stuck with manually adjusting the settings when using component video cables.  |  IP: Logged Claude S. Ayakawa Film God Posts: 2738 From: Waipahu, Hawaii, USA Registered: Aug 2002 posted 03-21-2009 09:23 PM                        Bobby, I saw parts of a beautiful locally produced show in HD last night on our CBS affiliated station, KGMB and it was sharp and look like one would expect as a true HD image. I guess that means my HDDVR is producing a HD image. The HD image also fills the entire screen. -Cllaude  |  IP: Logged Claude S. Ayakawa Film God Posts: 2738 From: Waipahu, Hawaii, USA Registered: Aug 2002 posted 03-22-2009 01:30 PM                        After checking the setting on my Blu Ray player last night, I was suppose to change the aspect ratio after all. The player was set to play movies in the full wide screen aspect ratio on a standard television set and that was the reason I was getting a wider than normal picture on my new HD 16X9 screen. Walt Disney's PINOCCHIO now look normal with black borders only on the right and left after I had made the correction. The only problem I still have is my DVDs with a full 1,35:1 aspect ratio is still showing up full screen. The player is most likely reading the disc as anamorphic enhanced and stretching the picture. -Claude  |  IP: Logged Darryl Spicer Film God Posts: 3250 From: Lexington, KY, USA Registered: Dec 2000 posted 03-22-2009 02:48 PM                    make sure your tv is playing back in the full screen mode not the just or stretch or zoom modes. A 1.33 images should have the black bars on the side, 1.78/1.85 should fill the whole screen and 2.35 should have thinner black bars on the top and bottom.  |  IP: Logged Claude S. Ayakawa Film God Posts: 2738 From: Waipahu, Hawaii, USA Registered: Aug 2002 posted 03-24-2009 06:56 PM                        I forgot to mention it when I had started this thread about setting up my new Samsung 26 inch 1080p HDTV. In addition to the HDTV, remote Control with batteries, quick set up instructions, Power and other cables, the large carton also came with a disc. The heading on the disc says SYNC MASTER and there is a list of three content on it. The first one says USERS GUIDE. The next one says MONITOR DRIVER and the 3rd says NATURAL COLOR 1.0.0.4 . I know the first part is my detail users manual because I did not get a regular paper copy but what am I do do with the other two items. As far as the screen image and color on my new HDTY is concerned, they are perfect so do I need to do anything with the disc?  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 03-24-2009 10:44 PM                     The Sync Master disc you have is meant for computer related functions (we have a couple Samsung computer monitors at my workplace). Apparently you can use your TV as a computer monitor. The TV may even feature a standard SVGA computer monitor jack on the back; although you can buy DVI to HDMI adapters to make HDTV sets function as computer monitors. The monitor driver and Natural Color 1.0.0.4 items are applications that can give you more control in adjusting monitor settings than you would get by running the HDTV as a "plug and play" computer monitor. quote: Claude S. Ayakawa I saw parts of a beautiful locally produced show in HD last night on our CBS affiliated station, KGMB and it was sharp and look like one would expect as a true HD image. I'm somewhat impressed by the image quality of free, over the air HDTV signals. Sure, it's not Blu-ray territory. But the image quality is often better than what I see on many of the HD channels I can watch via digital satellite.  |  IP: Logged

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