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Topic: More 4K "home" projectors coming your way
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Julio Roberto
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posted 11-10-2009 03:44 PM
http://www.epson.co.jp/e/newsroom/2009/news_20091109.htm
quote: Seiko Epson Corporation ("Epson", TSE:6724) today announced that it has developed the world's first* 4K-compatible high-temperature polysilicon (HTPS) TFT liquid crystal panel for 3LCD projectors. Measuring 1.64 inches diagonally, the new panel supports displays with resolutions up to 4096 × 2160 pixels.
Projector applications continue to expand. In addition to being used for business presentations, projectors are gaining wider use in the classroom, in auditoriums and at big events. Meanwhile, demand for high-performance products is expected to grow as more and more households enjoy full HD content via digital broadcasts and high definition video players. With a resolution of nearly 8.85 megapixels, 4K panels offer four times the resolution of full HD (1920 × 1080), making them ideal for the high resolutions required by special applications such as industrial design, architectural design and simulations, as well as for presentations and projecting four full HD images at the same time.
Epson will show ultra-high resolution images including 3D when it exhibits a prototype ultra-high resolution projector using the panel at the International Broadcast Equipment Exhibition (Inter BEE 2009) to be held at Makuhari Messe, Chiba, Japan, from November 18 to 20.
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Julio Roberto
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posted 11-25-2009 05:00 AM
Well, as we know, 4K cameras are here and more are coming on the "cheap" (i.e. under $4K) in the next few months. Also, a 4K optical disc player (red-ray) is also announced for under $4k for the next few months. It has been publicly shown and the price stated and production started.
Independent movies and "home video" could be made and display in 4K by next summer in semi-pro setups. Once a cheap 4K display system is in the market, 4K will start to take off somewhat. Hollywood would see the opportunity to re-sell their movies once again in QFHD (using red-ray or their own souped-up version of blu-ray) on the long run.
Etc, etc.
Again there is NO NEED or strong incentive for 4K-at-home today nor likely in the near future, that is true, but that doesn't mean that it won't happen. There is NO NEED for 3TB 5Ghz-16core 8GB RAM computers at home for under $1k but watch them come sooner if not later.
I'm not saying domestic-4K is going to happen, nor that it will happen fast. I'm saying that I *know* an optical disc player (a blu-ray like thing) for 4K *can* be made and sold for a profit for under $1K TODAY and that a 4K flat panel TV 56" *can* be made and sold for a profit today at ~$2.5K and that a video camera can be made and sold at a profit today at around (fake) 4K resolution levels for under $4K.
That is TODAY if someone wanted to make it (and someone IS actually making them or is getting ready to do so in the near future, BTW).
Imagine in 5 years.
A lot of this stuff is not made because it follows the usual cycle. First squeeze all the profit you can from HD. Then, once the competition starts doing 2.5K, 3K and 4K, you do the same, but first for the "high-end" and "professional" markets to milk nice margins. Once that market is full, you go to the mass market at reasonable prices until it's also full and you have to move to the next thing. 8K?
They would do the same to movie theatres with 1.3K, 2K, 4K and, pbbly, 8K if they could. Cheap theater owners are a tougher sale than they anticipated, though, so it's taken some 10 years to reach the 35mm-reasonable-replacemente-level of 4K. (*joking*)
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Bobby Henderson
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posted 11-26-2009 12:31 AM
quote: Julio Roberto Well, as we know, 4K cameras are here and more are coming on the "cheap" (i.e. under $4K) in the next few months.
At this point, the only 4K electronic video cameras being designed are very expensive models meant explicitly for professional use, not affordable, pro-sumer use. I'll even classify the models built by Red as being very expensive. Once you add in the lens pack, focusing rails and all the other stuff required you're going to be looking at a staggering price.
On top of that, consumer HD video cameras haven't even standardized on 1080p yet. 4K is really a very distant point on the horizon. These companies are still stuck in the bullshit of producing camcorders that top out at doing 1080i, HDV, etc. Hopefully the new line of true 1080p capable DSLR cameras will have shaken up things enough to get these electronics companies off their dead asses and start making consumer HD video cameras that can actually do some interesting stuff in fully true 1080p and at variable frame rates (1080p/24, 1080p/30, 1080p/60, etc.).
quote: Julio Roberto Also, a 4K optical disc player (red-ray) is also announced for under $4k for the next few months.
Anyone selling a "red ray" player is merely going to be selling an expensive, electronic door stop. No movie studio has made any announcement of supplying "red ray" movies for a new 4K home theater format.
Right now Blu-ray is the point of focus in new formats. 3D movies on Blu-ray is the next thing. 4K on whatever format, be it "red ray" or merely downloaded by ultra-mega-phiggidy bandwidth Internet connections will be explored at least several years or more in the future. Hollywood movie studios are going to milk the Blu-ray cash cow for whatever they can get out of it. Years later they'll explore something like 4K when they've figured out how to sell average people on why they need to upgrade to it. Right now at least 2/3 of Americans are holding on to their standard definition TV sets and plain old DVD players and discs. Those folks have to upgrade to Blu-ray en masse before we can start talking about the home version of 4K.
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