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Author Topic: Non action/sci/sfx films with excellent 5.1 sound mixes Tom Petrov Five Guys Lover Posts: 1121 From: El Paso, TX Registered: Jan 2003 posted 11-08-2010 04:08 AM                    I was watching "Any Which Way You Can" the other day on DVD with a 5.1 mix. What an amazing mix. The channel seperation was outstanding. Lots and lots of use of the rear surrounds and the front seperation was very good. Cars starting off in the rear surrounds and then making their way to the front. The scene with Clyde throwing around the door panels just shows of the surrounds. Not much use of the subwoofer but just hearing the surrounds so much for a movie that is a comedy was nice. Out of all movies, I never would of thought a film made in 1980 with DVD 5.1 remix would perform so well on a 5.1 system. Anyone else have any others that come to mind?  |  IP: Logged Manny Knowles "What are these things and WHY are they BLUE???" Posts: 4247 From: Bloomington, IN, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 11-08-2010 10:32 AM                     The Lt/Rt of "Pure Country" is one of my favorites. I'm looking forward to hearing the DVD 5.1 remix. I ordered it from Amazon on Friday and I think it arrives tomorrow. It gets loud at times I love the opening reel because it shows off dynamic range -- starting small and gradually becoming HUGE -- impressive since this wasn't originally a digital 5.1 mix (original release was SR). If your room acoustics and tuning are good, you should have no problem cranking the volume. If it takes on a piercing quality at reference level, then you've got problems. Listen for dialogue intelligibility, especially in the first concert scene -- man goes up to Lesley Ann Warren and talks to her in the audience -- it should be very easy to understand even though the "live" music is still pretty loud. I also remember liking the sound of "Thelma and Louise" overall but it's been a while. Maybe I'll watch it again this eve and collect my thoughts.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 11-08-2010 11:18 AM                     Incorrect Manny, I played this movie in SRD. That first reel was spectacular.  |  IP: Logged David Stambaugh Film God Posts: 4021 From: Eugene, Oregon Registered: Jan 2002 posted 11-08-2010 11:29 AM                        Is Any Which Way You Can one of those Chace Audio conversions from the original mono or Dolby Stereo? They do some pretty amazing work on restoring old soundtracks to make them sound more modern.  |  IP: Logged Tom Petrov Five Guys Lover Posts: 1121 From: El Paso, TX Registered: Jan 2003 posted 11-08-2010 12:18 PM                    quote: David Stambaugh Is Any Which Way You Can one of those Chace Audio conversions from the original mono or Dolby Stereo? They do some pretty amazing work on restoring old soundtracks to make them sound more modern. I can't imagine that is didn't have a Dolby Stereo track. Both Every Which way But Loose and Any Which Way you Can were huge hits. The first would of had the success to warrant a stereo track in the budget.  |  IP: Logged Bill Gabel Film God Posts: 3873 From: Technicolor / Postworks NY, USA Registered: Jan 2002 posted 11-08-2010 02:23 PM                     "Every Which Way But Loose" & "Any Which Way You Can" were both mono releases when they can out in 1978 and 1980. Imdb has "Any Which Way... listed wrong as a Stereo.  |  IP: Logged Tom Petrov Five Guys Lover Posts: 1121 From: El Paso, TX Registered: Jan 2003 posted 11-08-2010 03:28 PM                    quote: Bill Gabel "Every Which Way But Loose" & "Any Which Way You Can" were both mono releases when they can out in 1978 and 1980. Imdb has "Any Which Way... listed wrong as a Stereo. I find this response very hard to believe. A movie with Clint Eastwood at the time (the biggest star in the world) and Warner Bros Pictures producing the picture then releasing a movie in mono. No way!  |  IP: Logged Manny Knowles "What are these things and WHY are they BLUE???" Posts: 4247 From: Bloomington, IN, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 11-08-2010 03:45 PM                     Our print of PURE COUNTRY was SR only. There must've been dual inventory.  |  IP: Logged Bill Gabel Film God Posts: 3873 From: Technicolor / Postworks NY, USA Registered: Jan 2002 posted 11-08-2010 04:20 PM                     At the time 1978 the film was a surprize hit to Warner, the budget was not a large one. At one point it was offered to Burt Reynolds who gave it to Clint. A few excutives in the glass building just off the lot said it was un-releasable. They were wrong, it performed well along side of "Superman". The release prints were 35mm mono sound on both pictures. It may be hard to believe. The dvd's are studio re-mixes.  |  IP: Logged Greg Anderson Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 766 From: Ogden Valley, Utah Registered: Nov 1999 posted 11-08-2010 05:03 PM                        Mono sound on comedy movies was very common through the late 1970s and well into the 1980s. It didn't matter who was making the movie nor whether the movie was expected to be a hit. Imagine this: Tootsie had Dustin Hoffman and Teri Garr in Oscar-nominated roles. Jessica Lange won an Oscar. It had a big, hit, Oscar-nominated song performed by Stephen Bishop. The Oscar-nominated cinematography was 'Scope. But the Oscar-nominated sound was absolutely monophonic (although it's probably been remixed for DVD by now). So why wasn't it in stereo? Probably because almost nobody used stereo sound for non-action comedy movies at that time.  |  IP: Logged Manny Knowles "What are these things and WHY are they BLUE???" Posts: 4247 From: Bloomington, IN, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 11-08-2010 06:40 PM                     ...and I'm told the original theatrical release of TERMINATOR was mono -- because the special effects gobbled up all the budget...  |  IP: Logged Claude S. Ayakawa Film God Posts: 2738 From: Waipahu, Hawaii, USA Registered: Aug 2002 posted 11-08-2010 06:51 PM                        Even action action films such as the first CONAN movie as well as it's two sequels was in mono as well as DIRTY HARRY and many action films, Stereo sound movies was pretty much of a rarity except for 70mm films during that time. -Claude  |  IP: Logged Tom Petrov Five Guys Lover Posts: 1121 From: El Paso, TX Registered: Jan 2003 posted 11-08-2010 10:48 PM                    Does anyone else know of any movies that are more dialogue or comedy driven movie that use the 5.1 seperation well?  |  IP: Logged Manny Knowles "What are these things and WHY are they BLUE???" Posts: 4247 From: Bloomington, IN, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 11-09-2010 07:36 AM                     This is a tough one because, as a rule, dialogue is placed in the center channel - that's what it's there for. When I was learning sound design and mixing, we were totally discouraged from placing dialog elsewhere. My guess is it'll be hard to find very many "dialog-driven" movies with fanciful use of 5.1 channels. I know there are exceptions but I'm blanking right now. Two movies come to mind right away (voices in surrounds) -- One is SCREAMERS and the other one, I can't remember the name -- they're both sci-fi anyway... As I recall, AMADEUS makes good use of stereo. I'm curious what you want them for..? It might help when it comes to making recommendations.  |  IP: Logged Mitchell Dvoskin Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1869 From: West Milford, NJ, USA Registered: Jan 2001 posted 11-09-2010 11:48 AM                     > Any Which Way... Mono. The original release posters have no reference to Dolby for either film. Stereo was the exception, not the norm, back then.  |  IP: Logged

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