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Author Topic: Apect ratio = wide screen TV = sister upset Mike Croaro Master Film Handler Posts: 394 From: Millbrae, CA Registered: Apr 2005 posted 01-01-2011 11:06 PM                     Hi Folks: This has been covered before on the forum but it gave me a laugh and hopefully you also. So I was at my sisters house for Christmas day and they were having a "That 70's Show" marathon on MTV. The picture is streched out so everyone is fat. Since I was the only one watching, I "unsqueezed" the picture so it was at the 4:3 ratio. So then my sister comes into the room and is upset and demanding to know "what I did to the TV!". I explained that because it was an older TV show that I was watching it in the proper ratio. She mumbled something about not understanding and insisted that I change it back when I'm done watching TV! I just sort of laughed and finished watching the episode they were on. Mike  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 01-01-2011 11:08 PM                     People are stupid. Take a picture of her. (Preferably one that shows her waistline.) Stretch it out the same as that tv was doing to the 70s show. Show her both pictures and ask which she prefers.  |  IP: Logged Randy Stankey Film God Posts: 6539 From: Erie, Pennsylvania Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-01-2011 11:35 PM                     Isn't there a setting on your TV which automatically changes the display based on the aspect ration of the incoming signal? We just bought a new TV for my mother in law. It's a Vizio LED flat screen. It has an automatic mode like that. Whenever the program is SD or 4:3 AR it shows the picture "pillarboxed" to the correct size with black borders on the sides. If it sees a Hi-Def picture it automatically fills the screen. The only time it gets weird is when it sees a SD/4:3 picture that's been "letterboxed" to faux widescreen inside the 4:3 frame. You'll see a small image with black borders on all four sides. It looks weird but there isn't much you can do because some genius in the production studio F-ed up the picture.  |  IP: Logged Sam Graham AKA: "The Evil Sam Graham". Wackiness ensues. Posts: 1431 From: Waukee, IA Registered: Dec 2004 posted 01-02-2011 10:29 AM                        quote: Brad Miller Take a picture of her. (Preferably one that shows her waistline.) Stretch it out the same as that tv was doing to the 70s show. Show her both pictures and ask which she prefers. That is GENIUS.  |  IP: Logged Chris Slycord Film God Posts: 2986 From: 퍼항시, 경상푹도, South Korea Registered: Mar 2007 posted 01-02-2011 12:20 PM                     quote: Randy Stankey Isn't there a setting on your TV which automatically changes the display based on the aspect ration of the incoming signal? I think you'll find that the OP was saying "I changed it to that setting and my sister got mad." She wanted it to be set so that the picture filled the screen, even if it made people look totally messed up.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 01-02-2011 12:29 PM                        God damn I hate stupid people. They want the image filled 100% at all times because they "paid for that screen and they want it to be used". I am blown away that people don't come running out of the auditorium when a letterboxed or pillarboxed trailer comes on.  |  IP: Logged Manny Knowles "What are these things and WHY are they BLUE???" Posts: 4247 From: Bloomington, IN, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 01-02-2011 12:33 PM                     While we're all being judgmental about it: Aspect Ratio NOT -- Apect Ratio (thread title) NOT -- Aspect Ration (Randy)  |  IP: Logged Rick Raskin Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1100 From: Manassas Virginia Registered: Jan 2003 posted 01-02-2011 12:36 PM                     And there are those networks that broadcast everything 16:9 on their HD channels. And I know people that adjust their TVs to stretch mode and actually prefer it that way. Brad is right!  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 01-02-2011 01:32 PM                        CNN is particularly bad for stretching everything, even on their web site (what the hell?) Perhaps they ran out of their rations. I think that when hiring a technician to do any sort of optical work at a movie theater, one should first visit said technician's home and throw some 4:3 content up on his screen. If he stretches it, do not hire the tech and blacklist him so that he never works in the industry again. Such a tech would have no issue with filing a scope aperture plate with the lens twisted a bit.  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 01-02-2011 01:43 PM                     We also have a Visio and I've got mine set to "panaramic" view where it just slightly stretches out the side to fill the screen yet keeps the majority of the center image in proper proportions. Kinda like having a diopter in an anamorphic lens to correct the squeeze distortion on closeup shots .. -Monte  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-02-2011 01:45 PM                        quote: Joe Redifer I am blown away that people don't come running out of the auditorium when a letterboxed or pillarboxed trailer comes on. I had that happen once. But he wasn't "complaining" just asking if there was something wrong because the picture wasn't all the way to the sides.  |  IP: Logged Martin McCaffery Film God Posts: 2481 From: Montgomery, AL Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-02-2011 03:03 PM                        Saw a movie at the AMC Shirlington in VA over the holidays. All of the pre-show video irratainment was in squish and stretch vision. I'm sure everyone felt right at home, or in an upscale hotel. Thankfully, the feature was on film and they had the correct lens.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 01-02-2011 04:32 PM                        One day I arrived at the theater back when we were showing MILK to do some technical work or something. It was a flat movie sharing the screen with a scope movie. The assistant manager was running MILK with the scope lens and masking, having neglected to change either and not noticing when he started. Fortunately he walked off the job about a year ago, but what was really interesting to me is that nobody in the audience complained as they were sitting there watching everything all stretched out. Granted, there weren't that many people and it was a weeknight. Also it was still within reel 1 or 2 and I quickly switched it. I bet people would have complained before the advent of 16:9 TVs.  |  IP: Logged Jesse Skeen Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1517 From: Sacramento, CA Registered: Aug 2000 posted 01-02-2011 05:23 PM                     Why wasn't she complaining about paying for MTV and not getting MUSIC on it 24/7? I've been to restaurants that had widescreen TVs on stretch mode- I never leave a tip when they do that  |  IP: Logged Michael Brown Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1522 From: Bradford, England Registered: May 2001 posted 01-02-2011 06:31 PM                     Was at one of my relative’s house over Christmas. Soon after settling down to watch Christmas Eve TV soon became obvious that something was up. Her TV was on some setting called 'Cinema 1'. What this did was take the 16:9 image and zoom it equally on both the top and sides. So you are watching a 16:9 image (from a 16:9 broadcast) but you are missing some of both the width and height of the original image. Changing the TV over to the 'Wide' setting restored it to normality. Wonder what function this 'Cinema 1' setting is supposed to have?  |  IP: Logged

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