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Author Topic: Films made in more than one format. Stephen Furley Film God Posts: 3059 From: Coulsdon, Croydon, England Registered: May 2002 posted 02-24-2013 05:17 PM                     Using two monitors side by side I've watched both 'Oklahoma!' in both Todd-AO and Cinemascope, and 'The Big Trail' in both Grandeur and conventional 35 mm. Are there any other films available on DVD which were made in two completely different versions?  |  IP: Logged Louis Bornwasser Film God Posts: 4441 From: prospect ky usa Registered: Mar 2005 posted 02-24-2013 05:33 PM                        I think Around the World in 80 days is as well. It shares the 30 frame, 70mm format with Oklahoma. Louis  |  IP: Logged Claude S. Ayakawa Film God Posts: 2738 From: Waipahu, Hawaii, USA Registered: Aug 2002 posted 02-24-2013 06:29 PM                        OKLAHOMA was photographed in 65mm Todd AO only at 30 fps and again in 35mm CinemaScope . AROUND THE WORLD IN 80 DAYS was photographed in 65mm Todd AO in both 30 and 24 fps. -Claude  |  IP: Logged Paul Linfesty Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1383 From: Bakersfield, CA, USA Registered: Nov 1999 posted 02-24-2013 07:37 PM                     The 2-disc special edition DVD of Seven Brides for Seven Brothers includes both a CinemaScope and standard wide (flat) version that were actually shot and composed seperately. The Blu-Ray of The Robe includes an optional insert box that shows the majority of the scenes from the regular (seperately shot) version. Too bad that Disney only included a pan-and-scan version of Lady and the Tramp with their scope version instead of the one actually framed and composed for a standard release version (which may have never been used theatrically).  |  IP: Logged Jim Cassedy Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1661 From: San Francisco, CA Registered: Dec 2006 posted 02-24-2013 09:57 PM                     Not excactly the same thing, but- - I remember running a Laurel & Hardy festival some years back, and many of their early films were shot several times, with L&H learning or reading their lines phonetically off of cue cards and the supporting cast members being "foreigners" who spoke 'the other' language fluently. The camera angles,editing and even props were often different in the 'foreign' versions. We ran some documentary which showed several split-screen examples of this. I just did some searching, and you can see some photos HERE  |  IP: Logged Jock Blakley Expert Film Handler Posts: 218 From: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia Registered: Oct 2011 posted 02-25-2013 06:20 AM                     Perhaps slightly off-topic, but I keep finding myself hoping that D-Cinema's support for 30 fps might one day lead to seeing to us seeing restorations/re-issues of those original Todd-AO productions... (OKLAHOMA's current 2K DCP is, disappointingly, the 1982 'scope re-issue, right down to the Samuel Goldwyn logo and lack of overture and intermission).  |  IP: Logged Bernie Anderson Jr Master Film Handler Posts: 435 From: Woodbridge, New Jersey Registered: Apr 2000 posted 02-25-2013 06:53 AM                        Brigadoon was another one. They shot the first scene in scope and then stopped, set up the flat lens and shot it again in flat. Two totally different takes of the same movie. I think it was Van Johnson that caught on to it, they were making two movies and getting paid for one. Would love to see the flat version.  |  IP: Logged Dennis Benjamin Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1445 From: Denton, MD Registered: Feb 2002 posted 02-25-2013 10:29 AM                        I know that "On the Waterfront" was just released on Blu-Ray in three different formats.  |  IP: Logged Mark Lensenmayer Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1605 From: Upper Arlington, OH Registered: Sep 1999 posted 02-25-2013 12:52 PM                     Criterion's Explanation of Aspect Ratios for ON THE WATERFRONT  |  IP: Logged Leo Enticknap Film God Posts: 7474 From: Loma Linda, CA Registered: Jul 2000 posted 02-25-2013 02:17 PM                        There was an Academy and a 1:85 version of Touch of Evil: the Eureka BD has both. In the late '20s there were numerous films shot in both silent and sound versions, in many cases with major differences in the script and some scenes. One of the most famous is Hitchcock's Blackmail, though annoyingly the silent version has never (to my knowledge) been published on any home video format. There was also a brief fad for multiple language versions in Europe in the early days of sound. Each scene would be shot three times on the same set, usually (though not always) with the same director, but with multiple casts of actors, e.g. for the English, French and German versions. None are known to survive in all the versions in their entirety, though.  |  IP: Logged Mitchell Dvoskin Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1869 From: West Milford, NJ, USA Registered: Jan 2001 posted 02-25-2013 09:39 PM                     Dracula (1931) was shot in both English and Spanish on the same sets with different actors. The Spanish version is almost 20 minutes longer with extra scenes. Both versions are in the Universal Monsters Bluray boxed set.  |  IP: Logged Daniel Schulz Master Film Handler Posts: 387 From: Los Angeles, CA USA Registered: Sep 2003 posted 02-25-2013 09:49 PM                        I don't think you can get both on DVD/Blu Ray, but Angelina Jolie shot In the Land of Blood and Honey in both English and Serbian-Croatian. Each scene had two takes, one in each language.  |  IP: Logged Joe Tommassello Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 547 From: Coatesville, PA, USA Registered: Jan 2008 posted 04-29-2013 03:01 PM                  I believe "The Robe" was shot flat and in scope.  |  IP: Logged Richard P. May Expert Film Handler Posts: 243 From: Los Angeles, CA Registered: Jan 2006 posted 04-29-2013 06:05 PM                     I was told by a veteran of the MGM sound department that the musical numbers on SEVEN BRIDES were shot with the same vocal and orchestral playback in both versions. The picture format, as mentioned above, was adjusted for the screen shape, but otherwise the performances had to be virtually identical. The same was probably the case with BRIGADOON.  |  IP: Logged Aaron Garman Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1470 From: Toledo, OH USA Registered: Mar 2003 posted 04-29-2013 10:21 PM                     Lady and the Tramp had both a Cinemascope version and a 1.33 version for theaters not yet ready for widescreen. To my knowledge, the 1.33 version only ever appeared on a special edition LaserDisc : previous pan-n-scan masters were made from the Cinemascope version. AJG  |  IP: Logged

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