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Topic: LES MISERABLES now on blu ray
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Frank Angel
Film God
Posts: 5305
From: Brooklyn NY USA
Registered: Dec 1999
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posted 03-27-2013 08:11 PM
Some films seem to have that kind of a bipolar personality if you will. And I've come to see that this is almost always true with musicals. People either love them or hate them. I think it's because you have to have a certain mindset to accept people breaking into song for no apparent reason except, here's where the song is supposed to go. Although with LayMiz, sometimes you want to say, "Were does the DIALOGUE go?!
Maybe you need to have a special ability to allow for suspension of disbelief to a much higher level to enjoy a musical, especially if the musical is done in a realistic style....breaking into song certainly strains realism to a new level.
I remember some people who I usually see eye-to-eye about films, hated MOULIN ROUGE, yet I thought it was fine. Some films seem to have that kind of a bipolar personality if you will. And I've come to see that it is almost always true about musicals. People either love them or hate them. I think it's because you have to have a certain mindset to accept characters who otherwise are in a realistic setting, breaking into song for no apparent reason except, this is where the script says the song goes. Maybe you need to have a special ability to allow for suspension of disbelief to a much higher level to enjoy a musical.
I was reminded of that disconnect that people just today when my boss told me that he loathed THE SOUND OF MUSIC. Now I know that during the 70s and 80s it was very fashionable for young people in general and rock and rollers in particular to ridicule the film, but even though that has subsided to some extent, people still seem to be really turned off by it. But as films go, it really isn't a TERRIBLE film by any standard. Maybe a bit too cute (although the Nazi Anschluss isn't exactly a cute topic), maybe even without the songs it stretches credulity, but come on, a film worth of total distain? Not in my book, unless someone only knows it from watching this Todd-AO classic on a 19in TV set in a Pan-&-Scan attrocity as so many people did year after year when it was trotted out like some Hollywood circus freak on TV and peppered with enough commercials for it to play in a 4 & half hour time slot. Ah, the indignity of it. Come to think of it, it's no wonder so many people hate it.
Then again, this may I will be forced run the gawdawful "Sing-a-long" verson of the Sound of Music nightmare. Like the film or not, NO film should be subjected to that indignity, especially not one that to this day still keeps making money for Fox, not to mention that it bailed them out of practically going under after CLEOPATRA. Still making money after half a century and it only cost Fox 86 million.
LayMiz isn't bailing any studio out and it will never be rated by AFI as 40th of the Greatest Films of All Times either.
It didn't work for me, btw. Not a fan with 3/5 and a barely a 3 at that.
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Bobby Henderson
"Ask me about Trajan."
Posts: 10973
From: Lawton, OK, USA
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 04-11-2013 11:54 AM
I got a pretty good laugh from a special sign the management at Hastings Books Music & Video posted above all the Blu-ray rental disc copies of Les Miserables. It was a warning basically saying this movie has very little dialog and the characters sing nearly all the time and asking the customers to take that into consideration before making their rental choice.
I suppose the sign was placed there in reaction to lots of returns from very stupid rental customers. Yes, I said stupid. What the hell kind of movie were these dip-shits expecting? It's a musical! There's been all sorts of marketing promotion on this movie adaptation, based on a extremely successful stage musical. The trailers and TV commercials had been playing for months. Anne Hathaway won an Oscar for her performance as Fantine. It's a good thing I'm not the manager at our local Hastings store. I literally would have been laughing at those customers. Get some damned culture, morons!
I can understand someone simply not liking movie musicals. But I'm not going to give anyone any slack at all for blindly renting a copy of Les Miserables expecting it to be a conventional action movie/love story.
IMHO, musicals do tend to work better on the stage. Portions of the show are abstracted, leaving it up to the audience to fill in certain blanks whereas movies can "paint in" the entire reality of a scene for the viewer. The stage provides more of a concert/performance paradigm. A character breaking into song in that kind of venue is more acceptable.
I think movie musicals would work better if they weren't so rooted in a conventional appearance of reality. Music videos seem to work really well. On a fundamental level they're not too different from a movie musical. However, music videos can bring in all sorts of unconventional visuals (special effects, motion graphics, various types of art, etc.) to better illustrate feelings, internal monologue, etc. I liked the movie version of Les Miserables alright, but I think it could have been better if it had used some of the tools that make the best music videos work so well.
I can't be too hard on Anne Hathaway, Russell Crowe and some of the others whose singing talents are not of the elite Broadway stage level. They make up for that with the acting performances, seen in close-up angles you can't see in any stage play. Stage Actress Randy Graff did a much better technical job singing I Dreamed A Dream. Anne Hathaway brought an emotional level to that performance, one that wasn't there in the play. In the end it's kind of an apples to oranges comparison. Hugh Jackman did an excellent job. He really knows how to sing.
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