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John Walsh
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 - posted 04-07-2003 03:02 PM      Profile for John Walsh   Email John Walsh   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I need to move some 8/70 prints on to, and off of, a LF Kinoton platter. I can't seem to find a something that looks fairly accident-proof. I know that with 15/70 prints, the platter has some features for this, but ours doesn't. Any suggestions?

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Gordon McLeod
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I would suggest getting large disks made of plywood covered with arborite with a centre hub and if the makeup table is like the IMAX version just wind the print off the platter onto the storage reel
InnerSpace Cases makes excleent large format shipping platters
http://www.innerspacecases.com

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John Walsh
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Hi, Gordon... !

Our platter is not like the IMAX-type. For example, IMAX-type platters have rollers to direct the film from one deck to another, where you can wind it (tails in) onto a plastic carrier. The carrier has a center hub, the same diameter as a take-up ring. This hub has a ring-hook allowing two people to pick it up. Our platter does'nt have these rollers

We can't even just place a sheet of 3/8" plexiglas (a 'doughnut') because when paying out, the film would be 3/8" higher and would not enter the payout head speed control sensor correctly.

I really don't know much about the LF world ... I'm thinking about switching prints the same as for 35mm; slide them off/on. Maybe that's not the right way to go about it......

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Michael West
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not really sure of what you have - but i will tell you what we do anyways. we have made some storage platters (much like what gordon has described) we also have a small lift - but we could position a table raised to the height of the platter we wish to move and we slide the whole film onto this storage platter, with two people very carefully. it is wrong but in a busy multiplex/imax run by an unconcerned corporation we do not have a choice. for you it is just an idea.

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John Walsh
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Hi, Michael;

Yes, that is how I am thinking we may have to do it, but I'd like to know if there's a better way, if possible.

I spoke to a guy from a company called E & E that makes an attachment for moving prints. What you do is buy a manual lift from Graingers (3W235) and install his attachment. It might work out, but the problem is to actually slide the print onto the lift's table.

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Michael West
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 - posted 04-08-2003 10:54 PM      Profile for Michael West   Author's Homepage   Email Michael West   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
john,
that should work fine, just be carefull - and if it becomes a "common practice" it me be wise to check the film over with attention to the splices - when we slide the print accross it will drop slightly 5mm to 8mm and i get worried about this pulling splices (for imax that is not good) also try and keep decks clean and all - that slight drop can/will cause lateral abrasion if it is done often.

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