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Topic: SW:EP2 in Imax ??
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Paul Linfesty
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From: Bakersfield, CA, USA
Registered: Nov 1999
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posted 09-09-2002 08:16 PM
The problem I'm having with all this is that no matter how much they can degrain the material, it still wasnt filmed with IMAX in mind. Regardless of whether or not they open up the Super 35 frame, the composition is still wrong. Human close-ups that fill the screen instead of staying in the lower third, rapid camera movements and quick cuts are all generally avoided in IMAX format. The proportion is all so different. With Cameron's HD photography of TITANIC REVISTED (or whatever he's calling it, a blurb in our local paper referred to the new super lightweight cameras used to shoot it), IMAX may go the way of Todd-AO, Cinerama and other large format processes that found "new lightweight cameras" to shoot with and release in the big formats.And how are the bookings of these "IMAX" films being handled? In addition to whatever IMAX films are out there, there's APOLLO 13, Disney's TREASURE PLANET at the end of November and Disney's LION KING in December. Is Disney repeating the full schedule demands they dictated for FANTASIA 2000 and BEAUTY AND THE BEAST? If so, TREASURE PLANET will have a VERY short life in IMAX, with APOLLO 13 not getting much more playing time.
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Adam Martin
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posted 09-09-2002 10:09 PM
Treasure Planet is slated for a 4-6 week window between its Thanksgiving release and the opening of The Lion King on Christmas Day. Since TP is being simultaneously released in 35mm houses, the LF version is just icing on the Disney cake. LK will likely be a full-schedule-demanded contract. Not everybody playing LK is playing TP and not everybody playing AOTC is playing A13. Apollo 13 (clocking in at 116 minutes and "adjusted" to about 1.66) will likely not be required to play all day and neither will AOTC. I watched A13 this weekend and it looks good. You can tell it wasn't filmed in 15/70, but we're talking about people who think "digital" is great. Time will tell regarding AOTC's image quality.
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John Pytlak
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posted 09-09-2002 10:33 PM
Adam Martin noted: "Regarding Cameron using video for an LF shoot, consider the fact that he's at the bottom of a murky ocean, anyway."I recall that Cameron's shots of the actual Titanic hulk in "Titanic" were shot with 2-perf TechniScope, and the grain/unsharpness of TechniScope's smaller image area were not obvious through the underwater murkiness and floating debris. So the Sony HDCAM's deficiencies may likewise not be obvious in "Ghosts of the Abyss", especially with separate 3D images for each eye. ------------------ John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7525A Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA Tel: +1 585 477 5325 Cell: +1 585 781 4036 Fax: +1 585 722 7243 e-mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com Web site: http://www.kodak.com/go/motion
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Aaron Haney
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From: Cupertino, CA, USA
Registered: Jan 2001
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posted 09-10-2002 11:39 AM
It's on CNN now. There are several other threads on this, but this has the most replies, so I'm replying here.You gotta love this quote from a Fox executive: quote: You couldn't find a movie better suited to the Imax format.
Well, actually you could. Like a movie made in the proper aspect ratio. I have mixed feelings about this new endeavor IMAX is embarking on. On the one hand, it feels a bit like a return to the days of 5-perf 70mm blow-ups, which is good. On the other hand, it involves changing aspect ratios, editing the movies for length, and showing them in a viewing environment that doesn't necessarily fit with their intentions, which is bothersome. In any case, it will no doubt do marvelous business for the IMAX corporation, which I'm sure is the reason they're doing this. Not that there's anything wrong with trying to make money. It's just the whole square-peg-in-a-round-hole nature of it that gives me pause. I don't like seeing movies altered from their original form. The great thing about the days of 70mm six-track was that, after some horrible first attempts with things like "Gone with the Wind" being cropped to 2.20:1, studios finally settled on the practice of preserving the original aspect ratios of films when blowing them up. Now we're taking a step back. Still, I'll be very interested in seeing the results. Anything will be better than the current practice of showing standard 35mm prints on the IMAX screen. EDIT: Since Ep. II was shot in a 16:9 format and cropped to 2.39:1 scope, they could just open up the image to its full 1.78:1 height and letterbox it within the IMAX frame, similar to what is being done with Apollo 13. But what are they going to do if/when audiences start clamoring for the rest of the Star Wars series? The rest were all in 35mm scope, and have no extra image area to work with.
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