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Topic: Did Imax ever crossprint to 8:70???

Jan Hackett
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posted 07-22-2002 03:28 PM

Just wondering if anyone knows of a time Imax allowed crossprinting and what titles??

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Bobby Henderson
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posted 07-22-2002 05:25 PM

I could have sworn some of the recent IMAX branded 15/70 films have also been downprinted to 8/70, but I could not tell on a specific title by title basis.

Other non-IMAX branded films like "Everest" have been released in both 15/70 and 8/70.

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Gordon McLeod
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posted 07-22-2002 10:19 PM

The only cross printing of IMAX produced titles is the space films as they have an agreement with NASA over there use
THe rest are for IMAX branded theatres exclusivly
Independent producers allow everything

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Jan Hackett
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posted 07-23-2002 10:37 AM

Gordon....What kind of agreement with NASA do they have? Do you have any specifics or examples??? BTW I am buying you a really big beer in toronto for GSTA ; )

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John Pytlak
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posted 07-23-2002 10:58 AM

Some links:
http://www.1570.com
http://www.bigmoviezone.com/main.html
http://www.imax.com
http://www.iwerks.com/
http://www.cinemadevelopmentcompany.com/
http://www.cinergetics.com/
http://www.giantscreentheater.com
http://www.lfca.org/
http://www.lfca.org/Post.htm
http://www.aerospaced.org/imax/current/destiny/cooperating_inst.html
http://www.geocities.com/TEG2/IMAX/
http://www.1570films.com/

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Gordon McLeod
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posted 07-23-2002 08:39 PM

The space films were actually produced by the Space film concortium
I would sujest contacting the IMAX theatre at the Cape Centre
The Dream is Alive you might want to contact the Smithosnian Institute as they were one of the funding partners

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Richard Fowler
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posted 07-23-2002 11:42 PM

The Everest people have an interest in Mega Systems a 8-70 supplier.
Richard Fowler
TVP-Theatre & Video Products Inc. www.tvpmiami.com

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Manny Knowles
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posted 07-24-2002 01:54 AM

I know this isn't very helpful to Jan (and there's always the danger that this thread could go off-topic)

...but I have to ask...

If they're prepared to downprint to DVD then why won't they downprint to 8/70?

(Don't answer that.)

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Jan Hackett
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posted 07-25-2002 09:01 AM

Manny...what a profound thought..........

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Richard Fowler
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posted 07-25-2002 11:55 AM

My last post mentioned Everest.....It was the Olympic Glory film people who have an interest in Mega-Systems.
Richard Fowler
TVP-Theatre & Video Products Inc. www.tvpmiami.com

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Scott Norwood
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posted 07-25-2002 12:56 PM

Manny--I know you said not to answer, but I will anyway.

IMAX probably views 8/70 as competition for their 15/70 format, while they consider DVD to be an entirely different market altogether. I tend to agree with this sentiment--to watch an IMAX film on DVD is no substitute for seeing a proper presentation in a "real" IMAX venue. By contrast, 8/70 essentially competes with IMAX in the lower end of the large-format market, and I can understand why IMAX would want to maintain a library of films which are exclusive to the 15/70 format in order to encourage people to install IMAX instead of other large-format systems (8/70, 10/70, etc.).

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Adam Martin
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posted 07-25-2002 01:15 PM

On Imax-released home videos, they usually have a commercial before the feature about experiencing the film in an Imax theater environment.

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Steve Kraus
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posted 07-25-2002 01:20 PM

I've never seen an 8/70 film (although I know someone with an 8/70 converted Norelco AA-II) but photographic science would suggest that the reduction print would contain most of the resolution of the larger format and probably surpass a print made from an 8/70 original (although that would be less the case if the 8/70 originated prints were all contact off the EK). Assuming the screen is a bit smaller and more appropriate to the amount of light you can push through the smaller frame the results should be excellent.

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Jan Hackett
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posted 07-25-2002 02:46 PM

"the lower end of the large-format market"........... 8:70 is an incredibly excellent format. I have seen an IMAX theater that could not compare to my large format theater. My screen size sound performance and presentation were in all ways very superior. IMAx could make a mark for itself if it stopped leasing equipment and had fair distribution rights. They are monopolistic in their business practices and want to hold on to that monopoly, yet depend on the rest of the large format world for product. This is corporate greed at its height and it shall backfire on them.

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Bobby Henderson
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posted 07-25-2002 05:31 PM

I've seen only a few 8/70 films, typically at amusement parks. Six Flags over Texas had their "Mach III" ride, which was replaced by a 3D dinosaur movie produced by Iwerks. I don't think that particular installation was the best thing to show off 8/70. The picture looked kind of dim and wasn't properly focused. I'm pretty sure this is of no fault to the film format but rather the projection setup on that motion simulator ride.

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