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John Pytlak
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posted 03-09-2005 01:01 PM
From the Hartford Courant, March 9, 2005:
http://www.courant.com/features/lifestyle/hce-bigmovies.artmar09,0,6342542.story
quote: Crown Doesn't Get Big Picture
Dominant IMAX `800-Lb. Gorilla' March 9, 2005 By LARRY WILLIAMS, Courant Staff Writer The Crown Palace 17's giant-screen Odyssey theater in Hartford hasn't played a large-format movie since "Beauty and the Beast" more than a year ago, and it's anyone's guess when there will be another one.
The problem for Crown Theatres is that it chose a cheaper Gigavision projection system over industry leader IMAX, and few new movies are being issued in the film format used by Gigavision.
In the five years since the Hartford complex opened, the large-format film industry has come to be dominated more than ever by IMAX, which has cut deals with Hollywood studios to make digitally remastered versions of prospective blockbusters for IMAX theaters only.
Thus "Robots," an animated family film that opens Friday in both 35mm and IMAX versions, is only available to Crown in 35mm. The IMAX version will be at Showcase Cinemas Buckland Hills, which equipped one auditorium in November with IMAX's new MPX projection system.
In addition, IMAX 3D has become the industry standard, meaning virtually all large-format films made in 3-D or converted to 3-D are not available to the Odyssey. That's true even when a competing IMAX theater doesn't book a film, as happened with James Cameron's "Aliens of the Deep," which attracted enthusiastic audiences in many locales but bypassed Buckland Hills.
Crown Theatres, which is based in Norwalk, did not respond to repeated requests for interviews over several days.
But Crown's plight was acknowledged and elaborated upon by the man who sold it the Gigavision projectors in Hartford and Jupiter, Fla. - Ernie Tracy, director of large-format and cinema sales and marketing for Kinoton America, the North American distributor for the German projector maker Kinoton GmbH.
"What Crown had originally intended was to be able to show more entertainment-oriented large-format films," Tracy said, as opposed to the more educational films traditionally shown in museums, science centers and zoos.
"But unfortunately, because IMAX is the 800-pound gorilla in the industry, they decided to saturate the market, and they started to focus on commercial cinemas," he said.
In the past year, IMAX has launched an expansion into the world of multiplexes with MPX, a smaller, simpler version of the original IMAX. IMAX also stepped up production of remastered versions of studio films such as "Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban," "Spider-Man 2," "Robots" and the upcoming "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory" and "Batman Begins." The Christmas feature "The Polar Express" not only was blown up to IMAX proportions but converted to 3-D. It was the debut IMAX feature at Buckland Hills Nov. 10.
"A place like Crown doesn't have access to that material because they're not an IMAX," Tracy said.
The compatibility problem is this: Each frame of IMAX film is 70mm by 15 sprocket holes, and runs horizontally through the projector. The film used by Gigavision and other alternatives to IMAX is 70mm by eight sprocket holes and runs vertically. IMAX has its loyalists, but most experts agree the average moviegoer can't tell the difference.
People in the industry refer to the two formats as 15/70 and 8/70.
Perhaps the coup de grace for the Crown was the decision by Walt Disney Pictures to stop converting its animated features to both formats. Disney's decision also robbed Crown of "The Young Black Stallion," a rare live-action drama made with large-format cameras (as opposed to a remastered 35mm film).
The decline in the fortunes of the 8/70 format is evident in Tracy's North American sales the last three years - four Gigavision projectors, period.
It's not that Crown Theatres didn't see this coming. Tracy said the chain had the opportunity to convert the Hartford theater to IMAX about six months ago but didn't do it. It's possible that IMAX's deal with National Amusements, parent company of Showcase Cinemas, foiled Crown's plans. But Tracy said it's evident, too, that Crown has lost some of its enthusiasm for large-format films, which - if they're not studio blockbusters - require expensive promotional efforts with schools and civic groups to be successful.
The Crown Odyssey in Hartford is far from the only giant-screen theater to be playing 35mm movies such as "Constantine" instead of the spectacles for which it was built. A check of multiplex websites across the country didn't turn up any non-IMAX large-format theaters showing large-format films.
Even many IMAX theaters are doing it, including Buckland Hills, which in the last few weeks has shown "Hitch," "Meet the Fockers" and "Boogeyman" on the IMAX screen.
Brian Callaghan, spokesman for National Amusements, said the theater couldn't get "Aliens of the Deep" for Buckland Hills because of a shortage of prints. It did play at the other three IMAX screens in the chain, however.
Contact Larry Williams at lwilliams@courant.com.
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Richard Hamilton
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posted 03-09-2005 10:17 PM
Mark, I agree. I've only installed a couple of 8/70's in multiplexes, and they had a 35 sitting right next to them. As far as I know, they only run 35 right now. For a while, it looked like Disney was pushing the 8/70 format, but I'm not sure what happened with that. In the last couple of years, all of my installs have been planetariums, museums and amusement parks. They run either the basic educational titles or in the amusement parks, they have their own films made. I know of one museum that converts to 35 on the weekends and probably does as much, if not more business on 35.
Rick
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Brian Michael Weidemann
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posted 03-09-2005 11:13 PM
quote: IMAX has its loyalists, but most experts agree the average moviegoer can't tell the difference.
I love the wording of this. What are these experts in? Audience survey and polling, it seems. Nothing to do with the ACTUAL presentation differences. And what, of course, do we know about all "average moviegoers"?
Admittedly, I've never seen an 8/70 presentation, but I can guess that my first impression would be the difference in aspect ratio. 8/70 is slightly wider, although the image is printed on less film area. Oh, but then these DMR transfers are all in their Scope aspect anyway (except for Robots, originally Flat, which fills more of the 15/70 frame than the others) and it throws the distinction out as it is.
This article makes "IMAX" seem like the big, corporate, bully bad guys, intentionally making obsolete a fellow format. Poor Crown Theatres.
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Darren Briggs
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posted 03-11-2005 03:20 PM
UGC edinburgh do have masking on ther 8/70 screen, 35mm looks very grainy. The 8/70 system they have is on poor condition, the sound system is down, and the projectors air jet system is also caput.
Not the ideal location for a large format theatre, its a bit out of the way from the center. They do have a couple of prints sat there that i saw when i was last up there in Aug. Lion King and if i recall Everest.
IMAX is alot clearer than 8/70 presentations, you can even tell when they blow up 8/70 to 15/70, it is alot more grainy.
The IMAX projection system is the Rolls Royce of film transport, I look forward to seeing an MPX system in operation in the future.
Must say that Dick's Bradford IMAX is the best one ive seen, not keen on the other UK theatre, think it is due to Bradford being alot steeper and you are closer to the screen, even thought the screen is smaller, also i believe that 100% of the IMAX frame is seen on the screen, other theatres have slight cropping, did you tell me this Dick!?
Darren
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