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Author Topic: Christie CP2000 Manual Brian Tristam Williams Film Handler Posts: 93 From: Johannesburg, South Africa Registered: Apr 2002 posted 12-02-2006 02:10 AM                        I read on another topic that someone had the manuals for this machine, but needed permission to post it. It was easy enough to find the manual for the Christie Cine-IPM2K (input modules and conversion), but the actual projector is proving troublesome.  |  IP: Logged Tim Reed Better Projection Pays Posts: 5246 From: Northampton, PA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 12-02-2006 07:56 AM                       The operation and setup manuals are normally inside the pedestal door.  |  IP: Logged System Notices Forum Watchdog / Soup Nazi Posts: 215 Registered: Apr 2004 posted 04-02-2008 01:40 PM                 It has been 487 days since the last post.  |  IP: Logged Andres Briano Expert Film Handler Posts: 162 From: Buenos Aires, Argentina Registered: Jan 2008 posted 04-02-2008 01:40 PM                        Can anyone provide a link to this manual (CP2000) or is it really that *hush*hush*? Thanks, Andrés  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 04-02-2008 10:34 PM                     No, Not hush-hush.. I have all the Christie manuals... you just need to attend the Christie training class to be able to get them... they are on a CD-ROM. Mark  |  IP: Logged Tim Reed Better Projection Pays Posts: 5246 From: Northampton, PA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 04-02-2008 10:58 PM                       Well, I have a CP2000 manual and I didn't go through their training.  |  IP: Logged Patrick de Groot Expert Film Handler Posts: 161 From: Sprang-Capelle, Netherlands Registered: Apr 2001 posted 04-03-2008 06:32 AM                     Well, it makes it really easy to distrute them because they are on cd-rom digital available. Guess PDF. Or are you not permitted to distrubte them? Stupid in that case. What's wrong with making this stuff available on the website (or perhaps on a for registered owners section only).  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 04-03-2008 08:12 AM                     Patrick, Why not just ask Tim... he has one... Mark  |  IP: Logged Andres Briano Expert Film Handler Posts: 162 From: Buenos Aires, Argentina Registered: Jan 2008 posted 04-03-2008 09:26 PM                        So? Is anyone going to make a copy available for me? Let me explain my situation. I have one Cp2000 under my wing located 5000km. north of me, in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. My guys there need assistance and I can´t give it to them without the manual. That´s all. Thanks, Andrés  |  IP: Logged Tim Reed Better Projection Pays Posts: 5246 From: Northampton, PA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 04-03-2008 09:48 PM                       quote: Mark Gulbrandsen Why not just ask Tim... he has one...  |  IP: Logged Richard May Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1057 From: Floral Park, NY USA Registered: Aug 2004 posted 04-03-2008 10:17 PM                     Okay.....We believe you. It's still alive........  |  IP: Logged Tim Reed Better Projection Pays Posts: 5246 From: Northampton, PA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 04-05-2008 03:22 PM                       You know, I thought that hard copy was the only one I had, but I just found a ton of .pdfs of the CP-2000 installation, wiring diagrams, and service bulletins... HOWEVER, they are in a file folder marked CONFIDENTIAL, and since someone upstream entrusted me with them to begin with, I will not break that pact. You probably should just contact Christie for SUPPORT.  |  IP: Logged Scott Norwood Film God Posts: 8146 From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 04-05-2008 07:50 PM                        So they consider the instruction manual for the unit to be confidential? That's pathetic. Shouldn't it be in the manufacturer's best interest to help its customers install and operate its products properly? What are they trying to hide? If the manual is any good, it should be entirely usable without the training class. I feel the same way about the Kinoton manuals...although they are actually pretty useless, so it's less of a problem that they don't want them posted or distributed. Some of these manufacturers really need to take a look at the Super Simplex manual. It has excellent diagrams and descriptive text, and explains installation, operation, maintenance, and common repairs clearly and concisely. None of the manuals for new equipment compare. The CP50 manual is also excellent.  |  IP: Logged Tim Reed Better Projection Pays Posts: 5246 From: Northampton, PA Registered: Sep 1999 posted 04-05-2008 08:16 PM                       Scott, the installation and service info has all the internal diagrams and stuff - and that is what was given me in confidence. The User's Guide might be okay, but I don't have that in .pdf form. I'm with you, though. I've always been a proponent of thorough documentation and service literature. And, if the equipment's been patented, what's the big deal? Unless they just want absolute and total control over the service, then I can see why they might not want it to get around. Like everything else, though, in a short time it'll be all over the place and everyone will have copies.  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 04-05-2008 09:49 PM                     Here is the deal...for the Christie manuals, like Kinoton, they are on a secure web site...as such the Manufacturer want to control their distribution, for whatever reason, that IS the priviledge of actually owning the copyright. Breaking that confidence by a dealer or service organization could be grounds for terminating that confidence. As such, I completely agree with Tim...then again, I wouldn't have made so many posts about having the manual that I couldn't distribute. BTW Scott, the Kinoton manuals have gotten better with each revision, their service manuals (rarely seen) do indeed give the talented installer a great deal of information though it is not spoon fed. As to Dolby, you'll note that their earlier manuals (CP200 and earlier) were definately very informative...however note, since the CP55, they were near useless except for the totally ignorant...with the exception of the cryptic signal flow and pinouts. It used to be that Dolby's patents and copyrights were enough to enforce their ideas and designs...nowadays, it is just easier to to withhold the information to begin with. I do agree however, if it were "MY" company, I wouldn't mind user manuals being free and available to all to download...I can definately see restrictions on technical/service type manuals that can cause more harm than good. Generally, those that really need them can get them through the proper channels. Steve  |  IP: Logged

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