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Michael Coate
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During summer '05 when I last spoke with one of the higher-ups at Marcus Theatres, the company at that time had no interest in D-Cinema or IMAX or any "specialty" type format. (I suspect the company felt burned about the industry's abandonement of 8-perf Large Format, which I understand Marcus had a number of installations.) Now, a year later, apparently Marcus has decided to start equipping some of their theatres with D-Cinema.

http://wistechnology.com/article.php?id=3271

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CIO Leadership Series: Jane Durment, Marcus Corp.
By Joe Vanden Plas • 08/28/06

Milwaukee, Wis. - Ten years from now, when people sit in theaters and enjoy digital movies that explode with color and clarity, they probably won't think much about the people that helped make digital motion pictures a reality. But they are hard at work as movie-goers take in the last reels of film fantasy.

These next-generation difference makers aren't all situated in Hollywood. One of them is Jane Durment, CIO for the Milwaukee-based Marcus Corp., which owns and manages the ninth largest movie theater circuit in the United States.

Durment certainly has her hands full as a CIO, but as a member of the Technology Committee of the North American Theatre Owners Association, she also is involved with the beta testing of projectors and servers that someday will present digital movies in America's 37,000-plus movie theaters. She's also immersed in the development of a digital certification program to avoid interoperability issues from studio to studio.

"This is a huge evolution in the industry, and it will take time," she said. "It will take years to work its way through the industry."

Durment will be driving the evolution of digital technology in the industry and within the Marcus Corp., which reported $289 million in fiscal 2006 sales. Marcus is comprised of two distinct business units, Marcus Hotels & Resorts and Marcus Theatres; the latter manages 501 movie screens at 44 locations in four Midwestern states.

While there is digital sound in virtually every movie auditorium, digital cinema is another matter. Not only will digital movies present more vivid colors, sharper color contrast, and higher resolution in mostly two-dimensional formats, it will offer the same quality each time a movie is shown. Film, in contrast, picks up scratches and nicks each time it is run through a projector.

"Consumers may or may not notice it, but with digital you have a pristine, new image each time," she said. "We're trying to drive the industry to further and further enhancements with this."

Already, two animated three-dimensional movies - requiring special viewing glasses and, in some cases, special cinema screens - have been produced in the digital format. They are Chicken Little (Disney) and Monster House (Steven Spielberg and Robert Zemeckis), but the benefits may extend beyond the major studios and producers. Given the lower post-production and distribution costs associated with digital movies, independent film makers that invest in digital technology could find it easier to get their motion pictures into theaters.

Tales from the encrypted

In its drive to replace 35 millimeter reels and traditional film-projection equipment, theaters have a number of technical issues to address. The technology is encrypted, which will require the use of automated keys to show the movies in all cinemas, and individual theaters may have their own issues. Marcus Corp.'s new ultra screens, which are 75 feet wide, require much more light than regular screens, which means some of the company's digital equipment will have to offer a high level of luminescence.

Needless to say, this and other troubleshooting will require considerable coordination among manufacturers, studios, and third-party partners while equipment is refined to meet Digital Cinema Initiative specifications. "We're talking about a conversion of the whole supply-chain process," Durment noted.

The fun part for Durment is that Marcus uses its existing theaters to show digital movies to an audience without announcing it beforehand, and then solicits reaction in a subsequent survey. One movie watcher, who was not surveyed, showed a pretty keen eye and raved about the digital presentation in an e-mail. "He went to our web site and asked us what we did at the theater because he thought it was great," Durment recounted.

Hospitality suite

Marcus Hotels & Resorts owns and manages independent and franchised hotels, including resort hotels, throughout the U.S. Among its prized possessions are the Grand Geneva Resort in Lake Geneva, the Hilton Madison Monona Terrace, and the Pfister Hotel, the Wyndham Milwaukee Center, and the Hilton Milwaukee Center.

In the hospitality industry, enhancing the guest experience is the Holy Grail, and Durment said guests increasingly crave technology. A member of the board of directors for Hotel Technology Next Generation and its Guest Room Technology Work Group, she knows why there is such disparity in the quality wireless service from hotel to hotel, and from room to room. Some hotels, she explained, simply do a better job of "engineering" their wireless service than others, and sometimes wireless networks serving nearby hotels and businesses can cause interference.

"You have to build strength into your system with more wireless access points and the size in the pipe going into the hotel and rooms," she said.

Hotels that stay ahead of the technological curve will benefit immensely. No longer content to check their e-mails or surf the Internet, hotel guests now want to download favorite television programs with Slingbox and watch them on their laptops, which requires high bandwidth.

"This is the type of thing the guest of the future is looking for," she said.

Working in Tandem

Durment's past has prepared her for the cutting-edge role she now plays. She has a computer science degree from the University of Illinois and an MBA in finance from the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee.

Prior to joining Marcus in 1996, she had more than 20 years of experience with technology vendors, including management experience with Tandem Computers, the company that developed fault-tolerant computers.

With Marcus Corp., Durment is in charge of a 31-person technology department that serves 5,300 employees - and counting. In the past year alone, Marcus has experienced employee growth of 26 percent, a function of adding hotels and theaters. If Durment had never branched out into industry concerns, the constant training of new employees, the security concerns that grow with each additional hotel and cinema property, and the need to adhere to industry and government risk-management standards would be enough to keep her busy.

Among her keys to a successful IT implementation are having a "business sponsor" among the impacted staff to foster a sense of ownership and accommodate change management, and accurate (meaning realistic) budgeting for each phase of the project - with the flexibility to adjust the numbers based on the experience of the previous phase.

"The better the planning up front," she stated, "the better the execution will be."

So...does anyone here attend movies at any of the Marcus theatres, and has anyone taken one of the surveys mentioned in the article?

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While there is digital sound in virtually every movie auditorium, digital cinema is another matter. Not only will digital movies present more vivid colors, sharper color contrast, and higher resolution in mostly two-dimensional formats, it will offer the same quality each time a movie is shown. Film, in contrast, picks up scratches and nicks each time it is run through a projector.
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The digital cinema revolution will be a quiet one when it hits us, because the public won't notice much difference in the picture. We already don't have nicks, scratches and dirt. (Well, 99.9% of the time.)

The big advantage here will be not having to carry film cans up and down the stairs. Something the public never sees.

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quote: Mike Blakesley
The big advantage here will be not having to carry film cans up and down the stairs. Something the public never sees.
That and the thousands of dollars per theatre per year saved on labor costs. Has anyone done the math to determine what the difference would be if you did not pay a projectionist for one year compared to what it costs to go digital? I would bet that most theatres are up over $20k per year in projection wages, with many being up over $30k or $40k or more. If a theatre goes completely digital, there really is not a need for projectionists anymore, is there?

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quote: Chad Souder
If a theatre goes completely digital, there really is not a need for projectionists anymore, is there?

Maybe not. Though, it would be paying for a maintenance contract on the equipment, so some of that "savings" is just being transferred. Also, somebody's got to load the "prints" and set up the playlist, so it's not totally "plug and play".

But you make a good point. Let's look at other areas of the theatre, where we could save on labor costs!

If the theatre replaced their concessions line with vending machines, it could also get rid of everyone but the Manager and the boxoffice help. It's been done. One-employee porn theatres in Seattle did that for years. It's a great money-saving idea. Wonder why that never caught on?

Wait a minute! If that theatre also installed turnstiles and admission kiosks, they could go all-plastic and get rid of the boxoffice help AND the cash they'd have to otherwise take to the bank. The service is already available in places. Just stick a couple of them at the boxoffice window!

Now that you've eliminated all that useless labor from your business, you're left with a manager... for what, I don't know... and maybe one or two kids to pick up the trash & clean the bathrooms. Could be done... and what a quality operation THAT would be!

I'm sure the theatre would take all those savings and pass them along in the form of lower admission prices.

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I don't think there will be much labor cost savings with digital. Most theaters already have a manager or an usher thread up and start as part of their everyday tasks. When it comes time for show makeup/ breakdown, a minimum wage person is used for about 6 hours, once a week. Sure, a few theaters will save big bucks, but I'd guess the average theater will save about $3000 a year. At $80,000 for a digital projectior, it will pay for itself in 26 years. Doesn't look like a good deal to me. Hey, let's say you even have a minimum wage pprojectionist come in for a few hours on a Friday and Saturday for a few hours just to make sure any problems are fixed right away. Now, your payroll is something like $8000 a year. It will take about 10 years to pay for digital.

Now, digital is a Good Thing, but it's very clear to me the cost savings are not NOT going to be at the theaters.

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My personal take is that for "Digital Done Right", the theatre will want a technically competent projectionist on duty. Film and Digital projection share many similar technologies that need routine maintenance and troubleshooting ability: power supplies, xenon lamps, optics, port glass, sound systems, etc. Even with a comprehensive service contract, how many theatres would want to shut down an auditorium waiting a day or two for a service tech to come in to make a minor repair, lamp change, or board swap?

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I think a projectionist would still be needed. Obvioulsy they would be trained in other areas other than threading and periodic maintenence, but they would still be needed. Imagine a 20 plex with digital projection, and something goes wrong. Are you going to send a 16 year old usher up there? No. Would the manager necessarily have the knowledge to fix it? No. Would the manager have TIME to fix it if it were on a Friday night opening of Spiderman 3? Probably not. SOMEONE will always be needed upstairs to watch over equiptment. Maybe they wont get paid as much as a full blown projectionist, but then, they would really need to do much unless something goes wrong. I don't see things changing much, other than projectionist training and knowledge.

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quote: Frank Dubrois
Are you going to send a 16 year old usher up there?
Actually... with $100k into the projector, plus ancillary equipment, I'm not sure I'd let just any average employee near the stuff. But then, I don't let my staff near the stuff I have now.

Anyone know how many local theatre employees are allowed to tweak the stuff in the Cinemedia racks?

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Actually I think jumping on the digital bandwagon now for chains that can afford to is a good idea. Not being left with your head in the sand is very advantagous and learing to deal with the different problems that will arise with D.C. is also very advantageous to know before you have a hundred or more units installed. The 2k format will be here for a long time to come and although there might be board level changes and encode/decode changes the basic 2k main frame will always exist.

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Now that you've eliminated all that useless labor from your business, you're left with a manager... for what, I don't know... and maybe one or two kids to pick up the trash & clean the bathrooms. Could be done... and what a quality operation THAT would be!

This fallacy of logic is called Straw Man. It is ignoring a person's actual position and instead using a distorted or exaggerated version of that position to attack.

I do not believe that removing projectionists from a theatre would affect the experience had by a customer like removing cashiers or concessioners. If a projectionist is doing their job, the only glimpse a customer gets of them is through the porthole anyway. My point was that in projection, I think there is far more human error than mechanical (present forum members excluded, of course). In my understanding of digital, there is no need for a person to be in the booth on a show-by-show basis. I believe companies would have to have managers that would be able to be trained to take care of the simple issues mentioned by John. With the lack of moving parts, I don't see paying someone to "watch over equipment" unless you have a ton of screens. It's silly to think that service contracts on digital equipment are not going to leave you stranded for an entire opening weekend of a blockbuster any more than a current service contract for film projectors would.

I know we would all like to think that the legacy of the projectionist will live on for a long time, but I think we need to consider that reality that manager/operators or usher/operators could be around the corner.

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quote: Chad Souder
I know we would all like to think that the legacy of the projectionist will live on for a long time, but I think we need to consider that reality that manager/operators or usher/operators could be around the corner.
I guess if you consider the projectionist to do nothing but thread projectors your right, but I completely disagree. A projectionist is (or should be) a specialty position. You cant train a real projectionist in 15 minutes, like you can train an usher or box person. Projectionist doesn't mean TO THREAD MOVIE PROJECTORS, its so much more. It's putting on a great presentation for the audience BUT it also means maintaining that presentation for the duration of the movie. Maybe the job title will eventually be changed to Presentation Specialist or Button Pusher Guy, but whatever the title, its a job that needs to be filled by someone competant....that will never change.

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quote: Frank Dubrois
It's putting on a great presentation for the audience BUT it also means maintaining that presentation for the duration of the movie.
I completely agree that you have to put on a good presentation. I guess I just do not understand enough about digital to see what would require so much attention that you would justify a specialist working full shifts on a daily basis, which led me to my earlier conclusion about saved labor costs.

I think the attention we pay to film are mainly on issues that would be eradicated by digital. Other than not having to thread, there are no worries about scratches, bad splices, cues, or moving parts seizing. There would be no need to preview movies the night before to make sure the print is good. The only thing left would really be the things John mentioned and those concerns are usually infrequent enough that a manager or other employee could adopt that into their job duties. Regardless, I'm not saying the labor savings would offset the cost of digital, but it would certainly soften the blow.

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Chad said "I'm not saying the labor savings would offset the cost of digital, but it would certainly soften the blow"
since most theatres pay so little in wages to start with against a very high cost of conversion I can't see it being a big softening of any blow

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Aside from using film as the kicking boy every chance the digital promoters get, a temptation which they seem incapable of resisting, I have to think that chains like Marcus and Clearview et al who are buying into this conversion are not run by idiots. They have long histories in the business and Marcus has hotel experience so one would think that they are not jumping into digital with its major cost commitment without first studying that all-important economic model. Running a successful hotel chain isn't done by not watching the cost of every system and subsystem. They have to be savvy bean counters. So I can't believe that they really think that a digital image which, to the mass public anyway, looks just about the same as any other movie they've seen on the same screen, only a bit softer, is going to amortize the initial as well as the on-going operational costs of converting to digital. They are just not that stupid.

This, the owners must understand is NOT going to influence their ticket sales bottom line. So what then? Why do they seem convinced that a major investment of this kind, those same guys mind-you who had to be dragged kicking and screaming to spend $700 for red-readers, these guys can't get their wallets out fast enough to put in digital projectors?

I have to believe that they DO see savings that are impressive enough for them to take the plunge. They are not stupid people; surely they have seen the service contracts, been assured that this new equipment will have robust tech support. In a word, they have confidence that it will work for them. Are they right? Possibly. We also don't know if the studios are also quietly sweetening the pot by telling them that if they go digital, those screens would get better deals for digital presentation because it saves the studio's money big time.

My guess is that this hasn't got very much with eliminating a projectionist (many chains have pretty much been operating with bare-bones booth personnel already). These owners MUST have seen proof that the savings will come from somewhere else. Getting rid of a projectionist and signing on to a service contract can't be a big saving. I have to assume people who run a classy hotel chain know how to count pennies down to the tenth of a penny! Somehow they are convinced digital will be good for their business.

On the other hand, all that endless blah blah blan loop we constarntly hear about no more scratches and fading and the image after 1000 screenings being just as 2K soft as it was at the first (my paraphrase), and all the rest of that claptrap is just so much smoke and mirrors so they can put SOME sort of spin that the theatre might be able to use in marketing, but it's of hardly any consequence the minute patrons walk into the D-Cinema and become immediately UNDERimpressed. What that talk DOES do, however, is make me want to gingerly choke the neck of the idiot who is spewing it with a goodly length of polyester film.

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