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Author Topic: Silver 3d paint? Jonathan Bodge Film Handler Posts: 83 From: East Dorset, VT Registered: Nov 2006 posted 04-13-2010 01:52 PM                     I installed a silver screen recently and paint was chipping off and over all it didn't look great. So as an option for future options I thought of paint. Does anyone have experience with painting silver over a regular matt screen? http://www.paintonscreen.com/3dprojectionscreen.html  |  IP: Logged Richard Hamilton Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1341 From: Evansville, Indiana Registered: Jan 2000 posted 04-13-2010 02:03 PM                     you installed it recently. Is it a new screen or used?  |  IP: Logged Jonathan Bodge Film Handler Posts: 83 From: East Dorset, VT Registered: Nov 2006 posted 04-13-2010 02:47 PM                     Richard, it was a new screen. Honestly I didn't make note of the manufacturer, I was just asked to install. I'll find out if I can and post.  |  IP: Logged Ian Parfrey Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1049 From: Imbil Australia 26 deg 27' 42.66" S 152 deg 42' 23.40" E Registered: Feb 2009 posted 04-13-2010 05:18 PM                     Digital Paint???? High reflectivity paint I can understand. Aluminized paint, yes. Silver paint, ditto.... but DIGITAL Paint??? Apart from the very dubious advertising of this company, if you installed a NEW silver screen and it's flaking, CONTACT THE MANUFACTURER. If you try and use this "digital paint" not only would you destroy the screen, you will also loose any hope of a guarantee claim. ..and if it IS flaking and new, I would also never use that company's products again.  |  IP: Logged Jonathan Bodge Film Handler Posts: 83 From: East Dorset, VT Registered: Nov 2006 posted 04-13-2010 09:57 PM                     The name of the MFG was: STRONG / MDI 1440 Raoul-Charrette Joliette, Quebec Canada Ian, yes it may be questionable, however, I understand that the gain of any screen can drop considerably only after a few months in service. I once painted a screen with technicote with white screen paint with good results. I just priced a good quality silver screen that was way beyond what a screen should cost and I suggested painting it. My question is, has anyone done it and what are the results?  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 04-13-2010 10:08 PM                     I bet it has to be sprayed totally evenly since any flaws in the spraying techniques would really show up when light hits the surface. ..why it's more common to replace a silver screen when flaws begin to show or have shown than even try to repaint it - why also you never clean a silver screen when someone throws soda drinks on it for the clean spot will be apparent when the light hits the surface. -Monte  |  IP: Logged Alan Gouger Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 501 From: Bradenton, FL, USA Registered: Jul 2000 posted 04-13-2010 10:35 PM                        Stewart sprays their silver upside down to minimize over spray ( mottle effect) Hurley prints their silver.  |  IP: Logged Gordon McLeod Film God Posts: 9532 From: Toronto Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 99 posted 04-14-2010 12:10 AM                     I have never had a MDI screen have coating issues yet  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 04-14-2010 08:23 AM                     quote: Jonathan Bodge I just priced a good quality silver screen that was way beyond what a screen should cost and I suggested painting it. My question is, has anyone done it and what are the results? Says who? I'm finding that Silver screens are going for anywhere between $7.50 and $9.00 per square foot. They are all more expensive than their white counterparts and they generally are of poorer quality than their white counterparts (blemishes, eveness....etc). Some clearly are worse than others. Now if you price Stewart....then yes it will seem excessive. They are typically 3-5 times as expensive as typical cinema screens. I don't have experience with them on Silver but their white screens really do pop better than others. Their gain is always spot on too...few others have that sort of consistency. They are also (really) seamless. That said, they are too pricey for most cinema use but not for screening rooms.  |  IP: Logged Alan Gouger Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 501 From: Bradenton, FL, USA Registered: Jul 2000 posted 04-14-2010 10:02 AM                        quote: Jonathan Bodge I understand that the gain of any screen can drop considerably only after a few months in service. I once painted a screen with technicote with white screen paint with good results. I just priced a good quality silver screen that was way beyond what a screen should cost and I suggested painting it. My question is, has anyone done it and what are the results? Stewart once told me Silver has a gain of around 18 which has to be muted to a usable gain. The screen then gets another coating which determines its final gain. It is this final coat that is the cause of smudges and finger prints ( difference in surface gain ) making Silver high maintenance.  |  IP: Logged Jonathan Bodge Film Handler Posts: 83 From: East Dorset, VT Registered: Nov 2006 posted 04-15-2010 11:15 AM                     The quote was from Stewart. I've been in television projection for a few years, I do installations (Colbert Report for example) interview desk rear projection and I forget that a screen for a major show costing 10 or 20 grand is just part of the budget. When I help old cinema friends out I should remember that they are on a tight budget. BTW, on Colbert we used Christie micro tiles around his desk. Amazing product.  |  IP: Logged Alan Gouger Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 501 From: Bradenton, FL, USA Registered: Jul 2000 posted 04-15-2010 04:04 PM                        quote: Jonathan Bodge BTW, on Colbert we used Christie micro tiles around his desk. Amazing product. The Micro tile industry is booming and product is evolving. A good possibility ( years ) we could see front projection large screen replaced with a back lit technology.  |  IP: Logged Bill Enos Film God Posts: 2081 From: Richmond, Virginia, USA Registered: Apr 2000 posted 04-15-2010 10:08 PM                     Not too long ago somebody here on Film-Tech reported receiving a can of "3D" paint from Technicote only to find that Technicoates label had been glued over the original ordinary silver paint label from Lowes.  |  IP: Logged Louis Bornwasser Film God Posts: 4441 From: prospect ky usa Registered: Mar 2005 posted 04-16-2010 09:58 AM                        Another good reason that Technikote is no longer with us. Louis  |  IP: Logged Jonathan Smith Expert Film Handler Posts: 201 From: Youngstown, OH Registered: Jan 2010 posted 04-16-2010 10:03 AM                     I thought society had already reached a consensus that "3D" was the new catch phrase, not "digital."  |  IP: Logged

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