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Author Topic: AV Cinema Scale Pro II Mike Moreno Expert Film Handler Posts: 200 From: culiacan sinaloa mexico Registered: Jul 2008 posted 06-13-2010 03:19 PM                        one of our dealers recomend us this product, does enybody use it? http://www.gefen.com/kvm/dproduct.jsp?prod_id=8166 thanks mike moreno  |  IP: Logged David Zylstra Master Film Handler Posts: 432 From: Novi, MI, USA Registered: Mar 2007 posted 06-13-2010 04:47 PM                     I have a few sourced through Christie and they work OK. It is a pretty versatile box as it adapts a variety of A/V sources to DVI 1080p (and if you have the version with AES input you can use it instead of a DMA-8 to adapt the digital audio from a digital cinema server - we don't use ours for that purpose so I can't speak to the quality of the D to A audio, but I know there are a few locations in the US using it instead of a DMA-8).  |  IP: Logged Danial Simmonds Expert Film Handler Posts: 107 From: Kota Damansara, Selangor, Malaysia Registered: Jan 2008 posted 06-14-2010 07:57 AM                        Yea we are using it with about 10 digital projectors here, they work, the best thing is you can connect the source audio and video direct to the unit so you don't have to pull separate line to the audio processor...  |  IP: Logged Mike Olpin Chop Chop! Posts: 1852 From: Dallas, TX Registered: Jan 2002 posted 06-14-2010 05:06 PM                     I'm worried about the use of RCA jacks. They could pop out too easily, and should not be used in a professional product. I wonder why they didn't put bnc connectors on it instead? On the other hand, switching audio along side the video is a pretty nifty feature.  |  IP: Logged Scott Norwood Film God Posts: 8146 From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 06-14-2010 05:48 PM                        quote: Mike Olpin I'm worried about the use of RCA jacks. They could pop out too easily, and should not be used in a professional product. I wonder why they didn't put bnc connectors on it instead? It looks like something that was designed to be installed by cinema staff instead of trained technicians. I'm guessing that they went with RCA connectors because they look familiar to normal people, and because most people have the cables already, even if they don't have BNC adapters. It also saves the need to install both a scaler and a separate guest input panel. I agree that it's cheesy, but I can understand why they might have made that choice.  |  IP: Logged Tony Bandiera Jr Film God Posts: 3067 From: Moreland Idaho Registered: Apr 2004 posted 06-14-2010 06:57 PM                     Mike, I have never had any issues with RCA jacks in any screening rooms I've worked. In fact, there is one small benefit to them: the action of inserting/pulling the cable helps keep the contact points clean. No chance for corrosion to interfere with the connection. I have had some BNC's give issues in that regard, as no one ever pulls them. But yes, accidental disconnection is easy to do. Anyone have a price on this Gefen unit?  |  IP: Logged Mike Moreno Expert Film Handler Posts: 200 From: culiacan sinaloa mexico Registered: Jul 2008 posted 06-14-2010 07:23 PM                        the price for us in Mexico is like 1800 us dollars. must be the half in us (i guess) mike moreno  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 06-14-2010 07:51 PM                     Oddly enough...BH Photo Video lists it as "discontinued!"  |  IP: Logged Mark Hajducki Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 500 From: Edinburgh, UK Registered: May 2003 posted 06-16-2010 02:24 PM                     I don't have any experience with this unit, only the (more expensive?) CineIPM units. I don't know if I like the idea of the integrated audio handling, but I suppose it makes life easier when used by non-professionals. One thing that seems to be missing is a composite video connection (I know it is worse quality, but somebody will bring along a device [camcorder, vintage Digibeta player etc.] that only has a composite out). For amateur usage this could be a particular problem. The unit does not seem to allow fine control over the picture size, this could be useful when content arrives in odd formats. No remote control. A wired remote allows the operator to see the screen when making adjustments (This is particularly useful when running from multiple sources). quote: Mike Olpin I'm worried about the use of RCA jacks. They could pop out too easily, and should not be used in a professional product. I wonder why they didn't put bnc connectors on it instead? This is odd for the back panel connection (as this is most likely to be semi-permanently wired), but since the DVD player it connects to is also likely to be RCA then probably ok.  |  IP: Logged System Notices Forum Watchdog / Soup Nazi Posts: 215 Registered: Apr 2004 posted 01-22-2012 07:30 AM                 It has been 584 days since the last post.  |  IP: Logged Alban Birch Film Handler Posts: 63 From: Luxembourg-city , Luxembourg Registered: Jan 2007 posted 01-22-2012 07:30 AM                        Hi We're still using a CP55 and a DTS-6D together with our digital setup (Doremi), so we bought the Gefefen because of the audio-switching possibilities. Is there a possibilty to control the Gefen from the Doremi, so that the scaler is always in analog bypass and only switches to digital bypass when a show is running on the Doremi Thanks  |  IP: Logged Carsten Kurz Film God Posts: 4340 From: Cologne, NRW, Germany Registered: Aug 2009 posted 01-22-2012 09:29 AM                     It uses RS232, so with some hacking into the protocol, should be able to control it from the Doremi. - Carsten  |  IP: Logged Tony Bandiera Jr Film God Posts: 3067 From: Moreland Idaho Registered: Apr 2004 posted 01-22-2012 12:52 PM                     You should also look into the Kraemer VP-436 I just put one in and so far it's doing a good job. It is RS-232 controllable as well. LINKY  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 01-22-2012 01:32 PM                     Terminal audio inputs but RCA outputs?  |  IP: Logged Tony Bandiera Jr Film God Posts: 3067 From: Moreland Idaho Registered: Apr 2004 posted 01-22-2012 01:49 PM                     Yeah I found that to be odd too.....but at least it does convert the audio to SP/Dif. I'm not using the audio at all at UC Irvine, it all runs thorugh a Denon AVR for processing, and the Denon provides delay adjustment.  |  IP: Logged

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