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Antti Nayha
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Wow, no less than two new demos this week. Full press releases quoted below.

Adding to those the previously demonstrated Kodak and Barco laser systems, it looks like there’s a tough race for being ”first-to-market” already going on.

One:
http://www.dcinematoday.com/dc/pr.aspx?newsID=2725
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Salem, NH—Apr 11, 2012
Laser Light Engines and SONY Present First Public Demonstration of High Brightness Laser 3D Cinema on a Silver Screen
NAB technology preview delivers on promise of high performance laser illumination


Laser Light Engines, Inc. (LLE), a venture-backed, laser-illumination developer today announced the world’s first public demonstration of fully-despeckled, high brightness 3D, high frame rate (HFR), wide color gamut (WCG) laser projection on a silver 3D screen at the upcoming NAB Technology Symposium on Cinema (TSC), on April 14, 2012 from 4:14pm-5:45pm PDT in Room #S222.

Bill Beck, founder and EVP of Business Development for LLE will be presenting an invited talk on Laser Illumination Systems for 2D and 3D Digital Cinema.

“We appreciate the opportunity to educate and update the NAB Digital Cinema community with both a tutorial and a live demonstration of laser 3D on a silver screen in conjunction with SONY,” Beck said. “Since its founding, LLE has been committed to laser-driven light sources that exceed the requirements of digital cinema”. LLE was the first to achieve full laser despeckling on a white screen in 2010, but with the rapid proliferation of 3D, and other advancements to be discussed at this year’s TSC, had to develop additional technology to meet new, more challenging requirements.

John O’Hara, LLE’s President and CEO said, “With this demonstration, LLE has raised the bar and now holds all the technology required to provide RGB laser engines that achieve, fully despeckled, high brightness 3D, on a silver screen.” He added, “In the near future, LLE products will enable exceptional image quality and dramatically reduced total cost of ownership.”

Gary Johns, SVP of Digital Cinema Solutions, SONY Electronics, Inc., commented, “We are pleased to present this groundbreaking demonstration in partnership with Laser Light Engines. LLE is a pioneer and leader in the field of advanced, laser illumination systems.”

For a full description of the NAB Technology Symposium on Cinema (TSC) session, please visit: http://tinyurl.com/7rb6bl7

Two:
http://www.dcinematoday.com/dc/pr.aspx?newsID=2730
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Kitchener, Ontario—Apr 13, 2012
Christie Hosts Cinema Industry Heavyweights at First-Ever High Frame Rate (HFR) Laser Projection Demo
Prototype Christie Laser-Engine Projector Shows James Cameron HFR demo reel and generic clips

Christie® hosted a high frame rate (HFR) Summit yesterday at Christie’s worldwide center for engineering, research and development in Kitchener, Ontario, touring cinema-industry luminaries through its manufacturing facility and providing the first-ever laser projection of high frame rate cinema and alternative content on to a 30-foot white screen.

Recent Gordon E. Sawyer Academy Award winner Douglas Trumbull, Ian Bidgood, Technical Director, Park Road Post Production; Matt Cowan, Chief Scientific Officer, RealD; John Helliker and Bert Dunk, Directors at the Screen Industries Research and Training Centre and Demetri Portelli, Stereographer met with Christie engineering and product development staff for a vibrant information sharing session and discussion on high frame rates, laser projection, and the future of 3D and 4K projection.

“Our guests were very impressed with our demonstration of high-frame rate content using one of our prototype laser projectors,” said Don Shaw, senior director, Product Management, Christie Entertainment Solutions, “as well as the laser projector development roadmap we shared in these frank discussions.”

Big, Bright and Crystal Clear Will Spark Cinema Industry Renaissance
The consensus of the assembled industry experts was that the industry needs to differentiate itself from the plethora of varied viewing options, from tablets to home theaters and all manner of exhibitor setups, to raise itself out of its current malaise.

Doug Trumbull said, “Spectacular movies delivered at high-frame rates, on to big and vividly bright screens, will enable the production and exhibition of amazingly immersive cinema experiences that will be far more powerful than any other medium.”

Echoing Mr. Trumbull’s sentiments, Ian Bidgood suggested that “…3D images must be awe-inspiring to bring back the crowds to theaters worldwide, and the higher brightness levels that are required to do justice to these images, along with higher frame rate material, will be delivered by Christie’s technology in the laser field, with new projector and cinema solutions for today and the future.”

Christie plans on incorporating laser projection technology into its cinema product line, business products line and visualization and simulation solutions where it benefits its customer base.

The Kitchener facility for projection, visualization/simulation, DLP Cinema and LED-based products and solutions is Registered to ISO14001 (Environmental Management System) and Registered to ISO9001 (Quality Management System).

Christie’s Commitment to HFR
The two main goals of Christie’s HFR activities are to help the industry develop the best HFR content and the best delivery system for HFR content. The first goal involves assisting leading-edge filmmakers and post-production companies in perfecting HFR movie creation, so the industry has the most engaging, entertaining content possible. The second goal is to assist exhibitors in showing these 3D HFR movies in all their glory. To these ends, Christie is helping create the standards for 3D HFR movies through formal and informal technology-development alliances with major producers and directors, post production facilities, studios and technology partners. On the exhibitor’s front, Christie provides one stop shopping for all the hardware, software and services that enable exhibitors to deliver a filmmaker's vision in stunning 3D HFR quality.


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Bruce Hansen
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The consensus of the assembled industry experts was that the industry needs to differentiate itself from the plethora of varied viewing options, from tablets to home theaters and all manner of exhibitor setups, to raise itself out of its current malaise.
Since the introduction of TV the theaters have wanted to "differentiate" themselves from TV. Now they are TV. Big problem.

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Monte L Fullmer
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Time to create a "Holodeck" to be really different.

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Martin McCaffery
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quote:
Big, Bright and Crystal Clear Will Spark Cinema Industry Renaissance
Wait, I thought with DCI everything already was Big, Bright and Crystal Clear.

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Victor Liorentas
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No this is the admission that what everyone just scrapped 35mm for at great expense was just practice!
Now that we have plenty of practice we need to cough up the cash for the real thing.
Hope money is still plentiful after [dlp] installations because only laser can achieve what current [dlp] pretends to do.
Oh and HFR! [Big Grin]

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Mike Blakesley
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They'll need to find a way to retro-fit the laser deal into existing D-cinema projectors. If they don't do that, it's going to be a very slow market growth item...will have to wait until existing projectors are replaced. Nobody's going to cough up that kind of cash AGAIN this soon.

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The consensus of the assembled industry experts was that the industry needs to differentiate itself from the plethora of varied viewing options, from tablets to home theaters and all manner of exhibitor setups, to raise itself out of its current malaise.
What "malaise" is that? The last time I looked the industry was something like 24% ahead of last year and having record weekends for the first quarter. (He's probably referring to the 3D percentage numbers.)

CinemaCon's going to be very upbeat this year.

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Antti Nayha
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One more (although not DCI):
http://www.theverge.com/2012/4/16/2951614/redray-4k-projector-and-player-NAB
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REDray 4K laser projector and media player to be shown at NAB tomorrow
By Sam Byford on April 16, 2012 03:27 am

Ahead of this week's NAB show, RED president Jarred Land has revealed the first details of two new products from the company. First up is the REDray Projector, which we first caught wind of back in December and is now set to see release this year — it's a 4K laser projector capable of displaying passive 3D at up to 120 fps and will cost under $10,000 up to a 15-foot screen, though it's apparently scaleable to a "large theater" size. Next up is the REDray Player, a 4K media box that can show 120fps video over four HDMI 1.4 ports and lets you download content to an internal HD or stream from flash memory. It'll feature tablet control and proprietary REDPASS DRM. We don't have any details or images beyond the simple flyers posted in the company forums, but rest assured we'll be scoping out the NAB show floor for further details.


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Carsten Kurz
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RED talked about 'DCI capability' long before this release, and they quote the projector brightness being scalable for cinema use. How long will it take to make these DCI compliant and 'deliverable'? Unfortunately, RED is notorious for not meeting deadlines.

The price point for the small variant could be extrapolated into a 20.000-30.000US$ for a full DCI cinema projector/player system. That would certainly change the market.

- Carsten

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Paul Gordon
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I have a feeling you will see masssive tech advances in digital projection in the coming year or two. The 35mm hold outs may be the winners, getting a brighter cheaper system for thier cinema when 35mm finally dies. (2013?)

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Louis Bornwasser
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Tickets sold is less every year. Louis

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Ron Funderburg
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Louis may be right that there are less tickets sold on a national basis each year; however, it doesn't hold true for individual theaters. The theater I run has had more butts on seats every year for five years running but maybe that is just "ME"!

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Antti Nayha
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quote: Mike Blakesley
They'll need to find a way to retro-fit the laser deal into existing D-cinema projectors.
At least Barco has stated that they will do exactly that. The modular lamphouse design of their current projectors may be an advantage here over competitors.

Still, it’s not like it’s going to be a cheap initial investment.

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Mike Blakesley
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Not exactly "less every year." This is a cyclical business and there are ever-more ways the pie is cut up.

Year Admissions (millions)
2010 1.339
2009 1.414
2008 1.341
2007 1.4
2006 1.401
2005 1.376
2004 1.484
2003 1.521
2002 1.57
2001 1.438
2000 1.383
1999 1.440
1998~ 1.438

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Ron Funderburg
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Mike 100% on you can argue we have less of the percent of total population going to the films now than in the past. Then again, there were three channels on TV in the 1970's and only a scattering of alternate cable outlets in the 80’s. Theaters have survived because they adapt. Stop adapting and that is a sure way to lose your customers. Oh, the nostalgia, it was always better in the past you hear it from every generation and I’m probable no different. We can’t live in the past though at least my way back machine doesn’t work. So I guess we just need to get moving on staying up with the future.

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Antti Nayha
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This was almost buried under the flood of CinemaCon press releases:

http://dcinematoday.com/dc/PR.aspx?newsID=2776
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Besides selected digital cinema projectors, NEC will showcase for the first time a next-generation 4K-resolution laser projector designed for varying screen sizes and installation flexibility using the latest 4K DMD from Texas Instruments.
So it looks like all DCI projector manufacturers have demonstrated a laser solution now.

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