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Melanie Loggins
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So, last night, my projector shut the lamp off 27 minutes into Brave. With 35 minutes of preshow, 8 minutes of trailers, and then 27 of movie... I figure it was on an hour and 10 minutes. After half an hour I was able to turn it back on and finish the movie, but about 4 minutes into the credits, it shut off again. So I had gotten another hour and 10 minutes.

It is hot as hell in my booth. The room's air handler vents are doing what they can and the roof vent seems to be working. The filters are cleanish. My question is.... other than standing there with an improvised swamp cooler, pointing a fan directly at the rear intake, is there anything I can do to cool it off more? I know it's hot as hell here right now, but surely I'm not the first person to ever deal with a hot booth?

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Marco Giustini
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Hi there,

Did you have a look at the temperatures on the touchpanel/communicator? You need first to find out what is overheating: light engine, LVPS, ballast, lamp...
Make sure your liquid cooling is working properly, sometimes a little air bubble can prevent the fluid to circulate. If the DMDs are overheating, I'd replace the coolant, stictly following Barco's instruction in doing it.

As a temporary measure, you may want to reduce your lamp wattage a bit to avoid shut downs. What lamp have you got?

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Frank Cox
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I have a "split air conditioner" just for my projection room. It cost under $2000 installed when I purchased it in the spring of 2011, shortly after I got my digital cinema setup.

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Tony Bandiera Jr
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^^^^ What they said. Also make SURE your projection booth exhaust blower is working. It may be shutting down from the extreme heat, which will make your projector overheat and eventually shut down.

And does your booth have any A/C? If so, why isn't it working? You need to correct that, otherwise all of your equipment including the server are at risk of early failure due to the heat.

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Marco Giustini
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what they said! [Smile]
Also remember that an A/C unit must be spec'd for the environment. Have a professional coming and evaluate the BTUs required. Usually in a projection booth you need powerful units, don't be tempted by cheap "home" units seen at the hardware store, that is money wasted.

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Monte L Fullmer
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Had a similar experience; a fire damper in the plenum in the ceiling had the lead break let go causing the spring loaded damper plate to shut down a lot of my exhaust flow.. getting my booth hot that contained my BARCO.

I found this when I took out the module and notice a very weak air draw going up the stack.

Got building mnt to replace that damper lead break so I can get my flow back to normal.

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Ron Funderburg
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Lord on our NEC's you have 5 minute cool down, a 30 minute cool down sounds excessive. We have exhaust and the only way we over heat is a D*ckHead forgets to turn it on. So the pan exhaust now stay on just as the ones on the roof. No more overheating.

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Dave Macaulay
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This is not a normal "cool down" like NEC and Christie have, Barco does not have such a cool down. This is an overheated projector shutting down with an alarm that will not start again until it cools down from the overheating - and that took a 30 minute wait.
Barco specifies that the ambient temperature must be below 95F. Plus there has to be a lamphouse exhaust fan.
What overheated specifically? The diagnostic warning message when it shut down may have said, or you can look at all the temperatures measured and see which are approaching the limit.
It does sound to me like an exhaust failure - weak fan or a closed fire damper.

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Marco Giustini
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Didn't realise that. I doubt that it takes 30m to clear the overheat error. It should really take a few minutes from the moment the lamp goes down.
Could you tell us more about the error shown?

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Bajsic Bojan
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And do specify if it was a B-series or C-series projector, or if it was the old DPxy00.

Having repeated shutdowns that are time and not temperature based seems more like a circuit problem, but might still just be an exhaust issue. Is there enough pressure in the exhaust to lift that little aluminum switch thing (dont know what that little bugger is called) in the exhaust pipe of the barco?

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Dave Macaulay
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Barco C series (S2) projectors don't have vane switches, nor do the DP1500 or DP2000. The 1.4" B series systems do have them, you will get a diags warning if it doesn't lift.

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Bajsic Bojan
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yes, the B series has them but i wasnt sure about the older models. But apparently she has the C series, so +1 on the overheating.

just check the logs on the projector and monitor the temp readings. Tell us what you find.

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Steve Guttag
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Remember, if you are going to run your booth that hot...you are going to kill your equipment...projectors, servers...etc. This isn't your father's film projector!

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Tony Bandiera Jr
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quote: Steve Guttag
Remember, if you are going to run your booth that hot...you are going to kill your equipment...projectors, servers...etc. This isn't your father's film projector!
Someone already covered that: [Roll Eyes]

quote: Dark Lord of D-Cinema
And does your booth have any A/C? If so, why isn't it working? You need to correct that, otherwise all of your equipment including the server are at risk of early failure due to the heat.
[Big Grin] [Razz]

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Dennis Benjamin
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Correct me if I'm wrong - if you are not properly cooling your D-Cinema equipment - doesn't that void the warranty?

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