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Author Topic: AP20 & Doremi ? Shlomo Rubin Film Handler Posts: 15 From: Tel-Aviv, Israel. Registered: Jul 2012 posted 08-12-2012 05:08 AM                        Hi everybody, I'm new here and i got to say that I love this place. On to my question.. We've just opened a new cinema and all the IMAX/4DX/AP20(Auro 3D) is kind of new to me (And to the country ). Just wandering if anybody has worked with the AP20 and Doremi and managed to successfully send commands to the processor through the network? Tried to search Google.. no success Thanks in advance.  |  IP: Logged Dave Macaulay Film God Posts: 2321 From: Toronto, Canada Registered: Apr 2001 posted 08-12-2012 07:25 AM                     You should call/email Datasat support - there's nothing in the manual regarding this. If you have a Jnior automation device you can easily use it to send serial commands to the AP20 by sending the ethernet commands to the Jnior... OK maybe not easy but it's not really hard just a bit complicated. There are two ways actually: TCP/IP to serial conversion and using serial control from the "cinema Jnior" package. Probably other automation devices can do this but we've only done it with the Jnior.  |  IP: Logged Shlomo Rubin Film Handler Posts: 15 From: Tel-Aviv, Israel. Registered: Jul 2012 posted 08-12-2012 09:56 AM                        Thanks for answering so fast Dave, no i don't have Jnior.. but I did manage to connect to the Processor and send him commands via TELNET. The problem is Doremi Servers don't come with telnet pre-installed and i cannot find a way to install it. (DAMN YOU GOOGLE!) every solution i found online (regarding linux in general) gave me an error... Any idea on how i can install telnet ?  |  IP: Logged Marco Giustini Film God Posts: 2713 From: Reading, UK Registered: Nov 2007 posted 08-12-2012 12:24 PM                     You shouldn't install anything on a doremi. Why should you? If you want to send commands to or access the AP20, connect a computer on the same network and do your tests using it. But I would call Datasat and ask them, easier and faster solution!  |  IP: Logged Harold Hallikainen Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 906 From: Denver, CO, USA Registered: Aug 2009 posted 08-12-2012 01:20 PM                        If you were able to control the processor using telnet, you should be able to control it using the Doremi "raw device." The setup would be something similar to this, which describes how to set up a Doremi raw device for a USL JSD-100. Good luck! Harold  |  IP: Logged Shlomo Rubin Film Handler Posts: 15 From: Tel-Aviv, Israel. Registered: Jul 2012 posted 08-12-2012 04:29 PM                        1. I Cannot contact Doremi/Datasat because the projection manager (for the whole company) is a bit block headed, doesn't want us the call them, yet won't do it himself. But my supervisor said it's ok if i mess with it myself 2. Marco Giustini: The AP20 is connected to the switch which is connected to the library, when i ping the IP of the AP20 from the doremi-server i get response yet when i try to ping it from the library no such success (even though i can ping the doremi-server ip and the christie). 3. Harold Hallikainen: I found this AP20 Ethernet Commands Manual executed the auth and fader commands from my pc (when connected directly to the ap20) all worked fine, used the device manager to make an AP20 raw this was the text i sent: "@AUTH <the_pass>\tFADER 50" (without the quotes and with the real pass) Macro was executed successfully yet didn't change anything. Thanks abunch guys  |  IP: Logged Bajsic Bojan Expert Film Handler Posts: 190 From: Ljubljana, Si, Eu Registered: Aug 2008 posted 08-12-2012 06:16 PM                     Did you end your commands with a carriage return ---> " <cr> " ?  |  IP: Logged Harold Hallikainen Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 906 From: Denver, CO, USA Registered: Aug 2009 posted 08-12-2012 07:57 PM                        I agree that you may need a carriage return (though I don't know the command structure for that processor). On the Doremi, a carriage return is entered as \r. Also, you MAY want to put \w before and after the command (after the \r if needed) to insert a delay before and after the command. The Doremi server sets up the connection, sends the command, then drops the connection very quickly. Not all equipment can catch this. Surrounding with \w generally makes it work if that was the problem. Good luck! Harold  |  IP: Logged Marco Giustini Film God Posts: 2713 From: Reading, UK Registered: Nov 2007 posted 08-13-2012 05:42 AM                     You need the <CR> at the end. I think the command should be @AUTH [password]<CR> FADER 70<CR> Also, make sure your RAW device is set to port 14500 If you cannot ping the AP20 from the library, the library is possibly on a different network, or on the wrong subnet. Can you provide the IP addresses and the SM of all your gear?  |  IP: Logged Dave Macaulay Film God Posts: 2321 From: Toronto, Canada Registered: Apr 2001 posted 08-13-2012 07:53 AM                     Make sure your AP20 is on the management network: the projector and one of the server ethernet ports will be conected to this switch. The other switch (media) will be useless for controlling the AP20. It sounds like that is OK but I don't think the library should be able to ping the projector and not the AP20: even if the server is bridging the networks, both should be pingable. The macro "executed successfully" means almost nothing. If the server was connecting to the AP20 and got an error message back from it, it will give you an error message rather than "executed successfully" but if the device is not present then the server macro happily sends the message nowhere and says it executed successfully. That message just means there was no error, not that all went perfectly. Try the command with the correct port and with the LF termination string /r (there's also LF/CR which is maybe /s/r but check the Doremi manual)  |  IP: Logged Shlomo Rubin Film Handler Posts: 15 From: Tel-Aviv, Israel. Registered: Jul 2012 posted 08-13-2012 10:40 AM                        Following lines were attempted no success. "@AUTH pass<cr> FADER 50<cr>" "@AUTH pass\r FADER 50" "\w\w\w@AUTH pass\r\w\w\wFADER 50" Is there a way to make doremi return a message frombthe AP20?  |  IP: Logged Marco Giustini Film God Posts: 2713 From: Reading, UK Registered: Nov 2007 posted 08-13-2012 10:58 AM                     try to send the password on a separate command, it will be valid until the ethernet connection is in place @AUTH pass\r Then, on a separate macro, try FADER 50\r "pass" is your password of course. Could you confirm your device is set on the correct port?  |  IP: Logged Shlomo Rubin Film Handler Posts: 15 From: Tel-Aviv, Israel. Registered: Jul 2012 posted 08-13-2012 11:03 AM                        Yep.. 14500 but if use another line wouldn't it terminate? Didn't work :-(  |  IP: Logged Marco Giustini Film God Posts: 2713 From: Reading, UK Registered: Nov 2007 posted 08-13-2012 01:16 PM                     did you try FADER 50\r\w ? (you need to give the password at least once before trying)  |  IP: Logged Mike B. Smith Film Handler Posts: 82 From: Universal City Registered: Nov 2004 posted 08-13-2012 02:36 PM                     Very easy to send commands thru network to the AP20 from a Doremi with out downloading anything to the Doremi or AP20. I don't have a released Datasat document yet but I can provide you the draft, send me a PM request. I'll move forward to get this document released and posted here on Film-Tech. Never hesitate to contact a manufacture for product help.  |  IP: Logged

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