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Author Topic: who has used the new BARCO dp2k-10sx Christopher Mondt Film Handler Posts: 14 From: Hamburg, Germany Registered: Dec 2000 posted 01-24-2013 06:05 PM                        Has anyone used the small BARCO dp2k-10sx? We are planning to install some of these machines but never heard any reviews. How is the internal server working?  |  IP: Logged Carsten Kurz Film God Posts: 4340 From: Cologne, NRW, Germany Registered: Aug 2009 posted 01-24-2013 06:53 PM                     I haven't heard of ANY installation of the new S2k machines yet. Anyone? - Carsten  |  IP: Logged Dave Macaulay Film God Posts: 2321 From: Toronto, Canada Registered: Apr 2001 posted 01-24-2013 07:09 PM                     First installation for me is scheduled for next week, a DP2K-10s with Doremi IMB and separate Doremi ShowVault server. The 10sx should be available (this model has the integrated server) in a few weeks. I haven't seen one of the Christie Solaria integrated server/projectors yet.  |  IP: Logged Alan Gouger Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 501 From: Bradenton, FL, USA Registered: Jul 2000 posted 01-24-2013 10:48 PM                        Ive spent some time with the NEC NC900 with the Doremi IMB and separate Doremi ShowVault server. It is not a bad little machine but no lens memory. The projectors software supports LMS but the lens does not. Will the Barco and Christie have lens memory? I would think NEC will have to address this sooner or later.  |  IP: Logged Marco Giustini Film God Posts: 2713 From: Reading, UK Registered: Nov 2007 posted 01-25-2013 03:56 AM                     If I remember correctly Christie have two versions, one is the "enhanced" one with lens control - Solaria One + . What do you guy think of the non-xenon lamp used in D-Cinema projectors? NEC and SONY. I do believe that those lamps do not belong to a professional an colour critical world. I have experience with consumer projectors and the colours drift of the light is awful over the life of the machine. The projector can easily compensate for it with an integrated colour meter, but then what happens to light output? And speaking of SONY, they have 6 lamps inside, each pointing to a different area of the chips. How are they going to compensate for - say - one brand new lamp at 7500K and 500 lm and the one sitting next to it with 1000hrs on it outputting 4500K and 250 lm? I think it's simply wrong.  |  IP: Logged Mike Connell Film Handler Posts: 4 From: Coventry, Warwickshire, UK Registered: Jan 2013 posted 01-25-2013 05:30 AM                        I'm fascinated by this thread as the 10sx is what I am currently looking at installing in my startup single screen cinema. From what I've read, it ticks all the boxes and more for me, so updates from those who have experience would be greatly appreciated!  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 01-25-2013 06:46 AM                     These projectors are strippers by design. The lenses are not motorized on the notion that most cinemas have fixed width screens so one merely crops scope (or scales it using the "resize" feature of the ICP and possibly shifts the image down on the imager. Christie's Solaria 1+ does have motorized lenses but at a notable increase in cost (thousands). The thought is, why charge that extra money for those theatres that don't need/want motorized lenses?  |  IP: Logged Carsten Kurz Film God Posts: 4340 From: Cologne, NRW, Germany Registered: Aug 2009 posted 01-25-2013 06:55 AM                     The Sony received DCI compliance in december, no need to question it's out of the box colour rendering. 6*450W UHP is a lot of light to start with a DCI whitepoint compensation. The Sonys have a light box that mixes the light from all 6 lamps, no segmentation (that would be an awful idea indeed). Of course it still remains to be seen how they deal with the lamp fading. I heard from a technician that the Sony has software provisions for lamp ageing, but how it deals with a potential mix of new and old lamps, I have no idea. I guess lamp mixing is not what they actually have in mind. BTW - from the NC900C datasheet: 'Zoom / Focus: Motorized; Motorized Shift: Horizontal/Vertical Motorized Other: Dowser (light shutter); Range of shift is dependent on lens Primary Lenses: NP-9LS14Z: 1.36-1.63:1; NP-9LS16Z: 1.63-2.03:1; NP-9LS20Z: 2.03-2.72:1; NP-9LS27Z: 2.72-4.07:1; NP-9LS40Z: 4.07-6.34:1' - Carsten  |  IP: Logged Marco Giustini Film God Posts: 2713 From: Reading, UK Registered: Nov 2007 posted 01-25-2013 10:18 AM                     Carsten, The 6 lamps are aimed at different parts of the light path, I find difficult for any optical element to perfectly mix the light in such a short distance. That said I don't mean that the if a lamp fails you have a dark spot on the screen, but I would imagine that the uniformity of the light wouldn't be on top. You WILL have mixed lamp in a projector: they won't fail all together and some WILL fail sooner. Another point: unless you decided to replace your lamps all together, your projector won't have the maximum light output anymore.  |  IP: Logged Ronda Fitzsimmons Film Handler Posts: 75 From: Pottstown, PA, USA Registered: Sep 2002 posted 01-25-2013 02:37 PM                        Just installing the first six Christie Solaria One units in my move-over theatre south of Lancaster - (Kendig Square Movies 6). I like it, and I LOVE that we used the old projector bases. I'll try to upload a pic. Integrated IMB/server and NAS (They provided a Netgear 4T ReadyNAS 2100 I think it was.) Our picture and sound are much improved, especially over the poor quality prints we've been getting lately. 5.1 sound though Dolby CP750. Haven't worked out automation yet. Anyone working with the jnior? Do I need to be a programmer to make it work, or is it pretty easy? Sorry about the poor quality pic. Camera phone, and too much coffee...  |  IP: Logged Marco Giustini Film God Posts: 2713 From: Reading, UK Registered: Nov 2007 posted 01-25-2013 02:59 PM                     you definitely need to get used to some quirks of it, then it's great!  |  IP: Logged Alan Gouger Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 501 From: Bradenton, FL, USA Registered: Jul 2000 posted 01-25-2013 03:08 PM                        A little more research into the NEC they are planning to add Lens Memory in Feb. Ronda looks like a perfect fit between the Christie and the ole film base  |  IP: Logged Scott Norwood Film God Posts: 8146 From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 01-25-2013 08:06 PM                        Hmm...I know of a theatre that has ordered the Barco (with the built-in server). Their screen is fixed-width for 1.66:1 through scope, and which gets taller for 1.37:1. If they don't get the motorized lens unit, what happens for the narrower formats?  |  IP: Logged Dave Macaulay Film God Posts: 2321 From: Toronto, Canada Registered: Apr 2001 posted 01-25-2013 08:21 PM                     The documentation I have on the Barco 10s has only motorized lenses listed. barco has non-motorized lenses available for the other D-Cinema projectors but I've never actually seen one in use. Lens shift is always motorized on Barco D-Cinema projectors, it's in the lens mount. Christie has historically made motorized lenses (including lens shift) an option (with some exceptions). I don't know about NEC.  |  IP: Logged Yinghong Wu Film Handler Posts: 32 From: Suzhou Jiangsu China Registered: Apr 2012 posted 01-25-2013 11:17 PM                     The DP2K-10Sx,a complete media server is built into the projector.The term"media server"covers the media block,the SMS and the storage device.In other word,this system is a self-contained all-inclusive package,just as are Sony's 4k system.---FIAF DIGITAL PROJECTION GUIDE---BY TORKELL SAETERVADET  |  IP: Logged

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