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Robertt Haddad
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dear all
i want to know how to ingest a movie from another doremi server,how to connect servers to each other should i put ip or only network cable can someone explain & thank you all

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Marco Giustini
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connect the servers using ETH0 and maybe a gigabit switch (use cat5e or cat6 cables), set an IP address to all machines (I'd use Dolby structure, but it's up to you), then go to Control Panel, Content Feed Manager and add on each server the other server.
When you have finished you will find the other server on the INGEST windows, by the LOCAL INGEST.

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Dave Macaulay
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You can do it yourself if you know a bit about computer networking.
You should use a 1000baseT gigabit ethernet switch and cable, 100baseT will work fine but content transfers will be pretty slow (slow like USB ingest).
If you're unsure of the process, get a local computer shop with networking experience to help.
You will need the Doremi server root password.
Server network configuration and setting up the servers for ingest, once the systems are networked, is covered in the Doremi manual.
Don't change the settings on the server ethernet port that's already in use for the screen management network. A few years ago Doremi recommended using eth0 (the port on the left) for the media network: I set up most systems the other way around (network configuration dictated by the owner) and it works perfectly. I think the recommendation may have been for an older model motherboard... whatever, I don't recommend changing ports over it. Best not to screw up what's working now: if you get the port settings wrong on the screen management network (communicating with the projector etc) the server will not show movies until it's corrected.
For a site where an addressing scheme is not predefined, I generally use management on 10.120.10.xxx and media on 10.120.20.xxx (the two networks must be on different segments!), with a 255.255.255.0 netmask and no gateways set. The xxx is just the device and screen number - something like 011-020 for projectors (011 for screen 1, 012 for screen 2, etc), 021-030 for servers, 031-040 for automations, etc. You are free to use whatever network addressing scheme you like on the media network, regardless of the management network settings. However, do not try to use DHCP. You need to have static IP addresses. And the two networks have the same netmask, set in eth0 configuration. If it's been set to something other than 255.255.255.0 there's probably a good reason - don't change it. If it is different and you don't understand the addressing restrictions of a different netmask, get some advice before doing the media network configuration to avoid address space conflicts.

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Marco Giustini
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Hi Dave,

I was told that eth1 is 100Mbit and eth0 is 1000Mbit, that's the reason.

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Robertt Haddad
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thank you Marco Giustini & Dave Macaulay
so it work like this connect doremi server to another by 1000baseT gigabit ethernet switch and cable ,in the content feed manager i put the ip and the subnet mask .the ip should be the same on both server
example 192.168.100.56 sub 255.255.255.0 it work like that

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Dave Macaulay
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Both are 1000bT on current motherboards.

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Robertt Haddad
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thank you Mr Dave Macaulay
can we do it without a switch i mean only (by net cable) a cat 5 or 6 cable from server to another direct

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Dave Macaulay
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Fine for two servers. If it doesn't work with a standard ethernet cable, use a "crossover" cable.

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Marco Giustini
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Thanks Dave!

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Robertt Haddad
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great thank you

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Carsten Kurz
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A Gigabit Switch goes for as little as 20-30US$, and it allows other machines to be shared on the network, e.g. an additional computer/NAS for content storage, remote Control of the Doremis by VNC, tablet, notebook, etc.

You can add it any time later, though.

- Carsten

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Richard May
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Just so you know, I just connected 2 Doremi DCP2000 servers together to try it out. I connected the ETH1 ports together with a standard ethernet cable. I manually added the server with the content to the server I wanted to go to through the Content Feed Manager. It works fine. My question is though shouldn't it be a fairly fast transfer going this way?

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Brad Miller
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Was either server playing? Doremi does some major speed throttling during playback.

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Richard May
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Both are playing actually. It's been transferring for exactly 2 hours now. It's only up to 31%. 136GB feature I'm tranferring.

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Brad Miller
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Start the transfer when both players are done playing. You will notice an amazing difference in speed.

This is a problem with all of the D-cinema servers that use software raids instead of a true hardware raid. You will notice the Dolby DSS200 transfers at full speed all of the time regardless of what it is doing. (Note Dolby's DSS220 is a software raid though. Boooooo.)

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