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Author Topic: which app do you use for QT playback Anhtu Vu Film Handler Posts: 98 From: Montreal, Quebec, Canada Registered: Jun 2013 posted 10-18-2013 09:22 PM                     Anyone here playing back MOV files for film festival ?? What hardware and/or software do you use ??? In the case of computer with software player...How do you make sure the audience never end up seeing the mouse curser...thx  |  IP: Logged Carsten Kurz Film God Posts: 4340 From: Cologne, NRW, Germany Registered: Aug 2009 posted 10-19-2013 04:16 AM                     I use Quicktime Player 7Pro (7.6). It may not be the most efficient Player, but I guess on modern machines there is enough performance. It supports a secondary screen for playout. What I do like especially about it is the ability to create reference movies with individual playback parameters attached to them. The only thing I am really missing is a Playlist feature. Under Windows, we use MPC-HC, we found that to be reliable enough, and it has all necessary options, yet is more complicated to set up initially. - Carsten  |  IP: Logged Bajsic Bojan Expert Film Handler Posts: 190 From: Ljubljana, Si, Eu Registered: Aug 2008 posted 10-20-2013 02:13 PM                     None. Get films weeks in advance, make a DCP out of them using free tools. Or ask for DCPs. Stand firm. If you don't, you will be responsible for 'bad presentation', 'tech problems', 'not being prepared' etc. Same goes for other thread about a h264 playback machine.  |  IP: Logged Scott Norwood Film God Posts: 8146 From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 10-20-2013 02:26 PM                        Aja Ki-Pro. Plays back Pro Res 4:2:2 (sound must be PCM, not AAC). Works reliably. Can be automated via RS422. Comes in both portable and rack-mountable versions. Not horrifically expensive. Has every possible kind of I/O (and can convert between them), and works with any video projector, not just D-cinema equipment. Also works as a recording device.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 10-20-2013 04:12 PM                        Just an aside, but I wonder why anyone would bother making a ProRes file with AAC audio. I mean they're already going ProRes, the audio file-size savings wouldn't be enough to make much of a difference in what's already a huge file.  |  IP: Logged Bajsic Bojan Expert Film Handler Posts: 190 From: Ljubljana, Si, Eu Registered: Aug 2008 posted 10-21-2013 01:33 AM                     Specifying 'QT playback' is nonsense. QT is again a container with a myriad codec combinations possible. Chance of having it work efficiently/well/even is dependent on the exact codec combination and the fact you have it and your processor power and the program playing it. Chance of it going wrong (ie. no audio, jitter, unsupported codec,..) without one checking every file in advance is great. Aja Ki Pro is a great playback device for Prores. That said, it is not an APP but a separate hardware device. It costs a bunch (3-4kUSD). It supports a couple of codecs and mainly Prores inside a .mov. QT otoh is (from wiki) a combination of: audio Advanced Audio Coding (AAC) AMR Narrowband Apple Lossless Au file format Audio Interchange File Format (AIFF) A-law Core Audio Format MACE Microsoft Adaptive DPCM (MS ADPCM) MIDI MPEG-1 Audio Layer 3 (MP3) Pulse-code modulation (PCM) QCELP (Qualcomm PureVoice) QDesign Waveform Audio File Format (WAV) μ-law video 3GP and 3G2 Animated GIF Animation Apple ProRes Audio Video Interleave (AVI) DV Cinepak Component Video Graphics H.261 H.262/MPEG-2 Part 2[7] H.263 H.264/MPEG-4 AVC Microsoft Video 1 MPEG-1 MPEG-4 Part 2 Motion JPEG Pixlet Planar RGB Qtch QuickTime Movie QuickTime VR Sorenson Video At varying resolutions and bitrates from 300kbps to 125Mbps or more. Take your chance.  |  IP: Logged Scott Norwood Film God Posts: 8146 From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 10-21-2013 09:12 AM                        Joe--I have no idea why anyone would do that, but I have seen it happen. The only significant issue that I have seen with the Ki-Pro is that, if used as a recording device, the output signal is the same type as the input signal. Which is to say that (for example) an SD NTSC monitor cannot be used to monitor the signal when recording a 1080p23.98 signal. It will downconvert the input if desired, but will then only record in SD. Also, the rack mountable version will accept two hard disks, but will only use one at a time, as opposed to using the second disk as a mirror of the first and/or allowing long recordings to span both disks. Still, though, it is a great box for the price. We ended up buying one for a performing-arts house, both to record live productions using a security-type camera permanently mounted in the house and to play back custom-made "coming soon" video promos before both films and live events. I have also rented them for playback of custom video promo spots for film festivals and for recording film Q&As directly to disk via HD-SDI. Sound Devices makes something similar, but their unit is designed more for production than for exhibition, and has a number of limitations that make the Aja unit a better choice for exhibition-oriented users.  |  IP: Logged Kirk Futrell Film Handler Posts: 95 From: Nashville, TN / U.S.A. Registered: Nov 2008 posted 10-21-2013 11:38 AM                        We use VLC for just about any video file on our IMacs. If you have the prores codec, available from buying final cut x or I think from buying "Compressor" for 50 bucks. VLC is VERY customizable and will allow you to have dual displays with one being your projector and the playlist on screen on your primary display. Also very easy to change audio and subtitle options and outputs. You can also make an a playlist save it to the desktop and with one double click you can play the playlist in full screen on the projector with no play icons or any of that nonsense.  |  IP: Logged Paul Gordon Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 580 From: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Registered: Aug 2005 posted 10-21-2013 12:00 PM                        If you want to spend a little cash you could go with Archimdeia Reference Player with a Bluefish 444 4K SDI card. The player will playback any media format and codec ever made along with DCP's. http://www.archimediatech.com/#!archimedia-reference-player/c1yc2  |  IP: Logged Carsten Kurz Film God Posts: 4340 From: Cologne, NRW, Germany Registered: Aug 2009 posted 10-21-2013 12:34 PM                     I see no price for the player. Do you have a number? The number of available DCP Player software is growing, this being the latest addition. - Carsten  |  IP: Logged Paul Gordon Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 580 From: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Registered: Aug 2005 posted 10-21-2013 01:05 PM                        Not cheap. $2000.00 for the software, $3000 for HD-SDI card, $5000 for 4K SDI card. This is more of a archival tool as it will playback Samma files, JPG2000, Digital Rapids, Front Porch Digital, Amberfin codecs etc... plus uncompressed media.  |  IP: Logged Bajsic Bojan Expert Film Handler Posts: 190 From: Ljubljana, Si, Eu Registered: Aug 2008 posted 10-22-2013 04:17 AM                     Add to that the fact one needs a PC worth at least 3k makes this an 'app' for 10kUSD. Again, why put this in a cinema environment for playback purposes?  |  IP: Logged Paul Gordon Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 580 From: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Registered: Aug 2005 posted 10-22-2013 05:42 AM                        You wouldn't unless you have loads of cash, or are QCing incoming digitized files at an archive.  |  IP: Logged

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