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Author Topic: Renting Digital Michael Cornish Film Handler Posts: 26 From: Cincinnati, Ohio, USA Registered: Sep 2011 posted 09-28-2014 11:04 PM                     Not that long ago I thought I saw a write up on a place that rented digital equipment or was I dreaming about it.......Help Thanks in advance mike  |  IP: Logged Marcel Birgelen Film God Posts: 3357 From: Maastricht, Limburg, Netherlands Registered: Feb 2012 posted 09-29-2014 01:56 AM                     And what are you looking for? A company that can rent you digital equipment (which must be quite a few and depending on region) or the place that used said rented equipment?  |  IP: Logged Scott Norwood Film God Posts: 8146 From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 09-29-2014 05:27 AM                        VER has some D-cinema equipment in stock (Barco projector(s) and Doremi server(s)). Not sure how the crypto stuff works with rental gear--you would need to get those public keys in advance of the rental, presumably.  |  IP: Logged Richard Fowler Film God Posts: 2392 From: Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA Registered: Jun 2001 posted 09-29-2014 06:42 AM                     We have sourced from several vendors including VER. Most of the time is impressing the importance of coordinating information regarding hardware, server time clock and security issues. One show with 1200 people we had four people on their cell phones trying to get the key to start the show……the server clock was six hours off which was hard to get this through the "key" police  |  IP: Logged Marcel Birgelen Film God Posts: 3357 From: Maastricht, Limburg, Netherlands Registered: Feb 2012 posted 09-29-2014 07:18 AM                     That's probably the main issue with those rental companies, they usually don't have a clue about how this DCI stuff works. So keeping the time well adjusted and providing some advance preparation so you can get public keys exchanged is probably very hard to arrange.  |  IP: Logged Jim Cassedy Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1661 From: San Francisco, CA Registered: Dec 2006 posted 09-29-2014 12:06 PM                     quote: Richard Fowler One show with 1200 people we had four people on their cell phones trying to get the key to start the show……the server clock was six hours off Hahaha! I went through the same thing at a big trade show a couple of years ago. The company involved was making a big product announcement and so they had their video "locked" until the last minute for security reasons. But in my case, not only was the server clock several hours off, but the DCP had been produced overseas and the time on the KDM they generated was set for the local time where the video was produced, and not the time it needed to be played back here in the USA. D'oh! Fortunately, I realized this enough in advance to get it all straightened out, but it wasn't easy, and didn't get fully resolved until the very last minute. The good news is that when I got paid for the show, they threw me a big bonus (several hundred dollars) for making everything 'work' and saving them from some major embarrassment at their big event.  |  IP: Logged Marcel Birgelen Film God Posts: 3357 From: Maastricht, Limburg, Netherlands Registered: Feb 2012 posted 09-29-2014 12:33 PM                     Creating an encrypted DCP, including all the necessary KDM overhead for something like a product announcement. Their CEO must have been Steve Jobs' brother... They almost deserved to get a smack in their collective faces.  |  IP: Logged Harold Hallikainen Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 906 From: Denver, CO, USA Registered: Aug 2009 posted 09-29-2014 02:13 PM                        How does a dci compliant media block have its clock off by several hours? Also, time zones are a PAIN! This stuff should all be encoded as utc. If you want something to play at noon tomorrow in Los Angeles, put the corresponding UTC time in the KDM. Harold  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 09-29-2014 07:17 PM                        Isn't it possible to just call a server manufacturer and let them remote in to fix the clock? That's what we did here when our clock got off.  |  IP: Logged Frank Cox Film God Posts: 2234 From: Melville Saskatchewan Canada Registered: Apr 2011 posted 09-29-2014 11:58 PM                        I imagine that depends on whether you have conveniently available wired Internet service that's not filtered through X number of layers of NAT.  |  IP: Logged Richard Fowler Film God Posts: 2392 From: Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA Registered: Jun 2001 posted 09-30-2014 06:59 AM                     This is a "recycled" Doremi from the U.K. with issues which did not allow for clock change…….running a bunch of "keyless" DCP for a function today which where made with DCP-o-Matic, so no heart attacks today.  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 09-30-2014 09:46 AM                     If you need rental call James Bond at Full Aperture Systems in Chicago. He does lots of D-Cinema rentals for the studios and does it all over the country. Mark  |  IP: Logged Dave Macaulay Film God Posts: 2321 From: Toronto, Canada Registered: Apr 2001 posted 09-30-2014 10:21 AM                     Since we're all thieves and pirates, the server security does not allow changing the clock outside a very narrow window. 6 hours is not possible without, from what I know, returning the Dolphin card to Doremi. If you use a DLM to extend the window (which won't stretch it to 6h), the server is no longer fully DCI compliant afterwards - but it will still work fine unless a KDM requiring strict compliance is tried. There are no such KDMs being issued yet, but they could be. The distributors realize that some security requirements available will break a lot of systems... and they don't want to do that. Yet.  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 10-01-2014 04:13 PM                     GDC is able to remote into a server and adjust the internal clock more then the +/- 6 minmutes per year that DCI allows... I've had to have them do this in places where the internet is unreliable and the server is still looking for NTP but isn't getting it and then drifts. Mark  |  IP: Logged Marcel Birgelen Film God Posts: 3357 From: Maastricht, Limburg, Netherlands Registered: Feb 2012 posted 10-02-2014 04:11 AM                     Maybe you should give them a Stratum-1 NTP server based on GPS . Yeah, I know, it sounds like a multi-K investment, but with a bit of tinkering, you can build one for a few bucks.  |  IP: Logged

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