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Author Topic: 'Hateful Eight' - not 70 mm. Stephen Furley Film God Posts: 3059 From: Coulsdon, Croydon, England Registered: May 2002 posted 01-17-2016 04:45 PM                     Since I'm asking about both film and digital I wasn't sure which forum to put this in. Do the digital and 35 mm versions preserve the full Ultra Panavision aspect ratio or are they reduced to 2.39? If the original a.r what format are they in; is the image letterboxed within a 2.39 DCP or 35 mm anamorphic film frame?  |  IP: Logged Michal Matys Film Handler Posts: 70 From: Prague, Czech Republic Registered: Nov 2014 posted 01-18-2016 07:54 AM                    Hi Stephen I dont know how about 35mm, but in digital it is letterboxed 2.39. Michal  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 01-18-2016 09:08 AM                     I haven't seen the Multiplex version but the Roadshow version was letterboxed to 2.76.  |  IP: Logged Mitchell Dvoskin Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1869 From: West Milford, NJ, USA Registered: Jan 2001 posted 01-18-2016 10:00 AM                     Besides the 35mm roadshow and 35mm general release prints that were struck specifically for Tarantino, and are now playing at his New Beverly Theatre in Los Angeles, were any other 35mm prints of either version struck for distribution?  |  IP: Logged Amanda Mundin Expert Film Handler Posts: 122 From: Belper, Derbyshire, UK Registered: Sep 2005 posted 01-18-2016 10:59 AM                     No 35mm in the UK, and only 1 70mm, apparently  |  IP: Logged Stephen Furley Film God Posts: 3059 From: Coulsdon, Croydon, England Registered: May 2002 posted 01-18-2016 11:22 AM                     Thank you gentlemen. Michal, can you please clarify one point. When you say 'lerrerboxed 2.39' I assume you mean that it was a 2.39 DCP with a 2.76 image letterboxed within it, not that the actual image was 2.39 and this was letterboxed within within a narrower format. The latter seems highly unlikely, but I have seen stranger things in the past.  |  IP: Logged Mark Strube Master Film Handler Posts: 322 From: Milwaukee, WI, United States Registered: Feb 2007 posted 01-18-2016 02:27 PM                        I recently saw digital Hateful Eight, and it was definitely 2.76 (or close to it) letterboxed inside 2.39.  |  IP: Logged Pete Naples Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1565 From: Dunfermline, Scotland Registered: Feb 2001 posted 01-18-2016 03:43 PM                     Yup, it's 2.76:1 inside the 2.39:1 frame.  |  IP: Logged Carsten Kurz Film God Posts: 4340 From: Cologne, NRW, Germany Registered: Aug 2009 posted 01-18-2016 04:41 PM                     Same as the trailers, and properly named. Just that the FTR is in 4k TH8_TLR-2_S-276_EN-XX_51_2K_20151113_ADC_IOP_OV I heard that the roadshow DCP is only delivered to those locations playing the 70mm - meant as a backup only in case the 70mm fails. All digital only locations get the standard version. - Carsten  |  IP: Logged Stephen Furley Film God Posts: 3059 From: Coulsdon, Croydon, England Registered: May 2002 posted 01-18-2016 06:33 PM                     So, if showing this in 2k, on an ordinary projector without an anamorphic lens, how many pixels are actually seen on screen?  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 01-19-2016 05:37 AM                     720p...er 2048x742  |  IP: Logged Stephen Furley Film God Posts: 3059 From: Coulsdon, Croydon, England Registered: May 2002 posted 01-19-2016 10:32 AM                     I did a quick calculation during the night and worked it out to 743, so I was near enough. How does it look? They want to show it here, but on our screen the picture will be about 1.2 metres high, and there's a Vue multiplex about one minute walk away that will have shown it before us.  |  IP: Logged Carsten Kurz Film God Posts: 4340 From: Cologne, NRW, Germany Registered: Aug 2009 posted 01-19-2016 10:35 AM                     Actually it's 1080 - with a fair amount of them being very dark. - Carsten  |  IP: Logged Michal Matys Film Handler Posts: 70 From: Prague, Czech Republic Registered: Nov 2014 posted 01-20-2016 09:56 AM                    Hi, Yes, I meant 2.76 letterboxed in 2.39, and as mentioned it is 1080. Michal  |  IP: Logged Stephen Furley Film God Posts: 3059 From: Coulsdon, Croydon, England Registered: May 2002 posted 01-20-2016 02:28 PM                     It's not really my sort of film, but I went to see it in 70 mm at Leicester Square today. The first half was better than I had expected, but I wasn't so keen on the second half. I can understand him wanting to shoot it on 65 mm, and release on 70 mm, but why in Ultra-Panavision? There were few shots which really made use of the full frame, most of the action takes place inside a building. II don't think if would have lost anything if it had been shot in spherical 65 mm, either letterboxed to 2.39, or with the negative image extended into the area formally used for the inner sound stripes on 70 mm prints; that should give an image close to 2.39, a ratio which all cinemas should be able to show without problems. As it is I think it will look terrible on our screen if they do decide to show it, tiny picture, and poor quality due to being cropped to 2.76 from a 2k projector. Also, we would have screen masking problems.  |  IP: Logged

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