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James Waite
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We are a single screen and I'll be playing one show a night so I'd like to put an intermission into my digital version of Hateful Eight.

I for one felt a little peeved I had to sit through a three hour movie without an intermission just because I couldn't make it to a 70mm show.

other than manually pausing it is there anyway to set the playlist to put in an intermission? I have a doremi server.

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Christian Hove
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For other long movies I have successfully used the intermission feature introduced with software version 2.6.0.

I have a PDF describing its use (not sure if it is the latest revision):

https://www.dropbox.com/s/7vnqodu66yfcpip/Intermission_Feature_Configuration_003696_v1_1.pdf?dl=0

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Carsten Kurz
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The following DCI servers offer an explicit intermission function in their recent software versions:

- Doremi (from v2.6x)
- Dolby (from v4.8x - so not for DSS100)
- Sony (all versions)

Not sure for GDC. Anyone?

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Frank Cox
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Are you sure that you're allowed to do that? Without actually going and digging it out to be sure, I vaguely recall that some of the exhibition contracts require you to play the movie from beginning to end without pause except for technical problems.

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Timothy Eiler
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quote: Frank Cox
I vaguely recall that some of the exhibition contracts require you to play the movie from beginning to end without pause except for technical problems.
Over the years when I've had long movies and the technical problems usually developed somewhere during the movie each show but We always able to get it going after a brief intermission.

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Brian DeCiancio
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quote: Frank Cox
Are you sure that you're allowed to do that?
Is this the same contract that requires moveable masking, 5.1 sound, a GORE/Enigma board and 14fl in order to be DCI compliant?

Just kidding. We are all compliant.

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Steve Kraus
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Someone should figure out where it should go on the non roadshow timeline to be essentially at the same spot as on the roadshow. Besides the lack of an overture, it is, I believe, cut slightly differently.

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Carsten Kurz
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The german HTF8 distributor actually added a technical letter to the normal DCP version with a suggestion where to insert an intermission.

There is a 10s black piece between chapter three and the chapter four title card (around 1h35min31s).
At the beginning of chapter four, the off-speaker actually mentions the previous intermission. So I'd say, with this movie it is clearly wrong to NOT insert an intermission.

BTW - cinemas in switzerland always make intermissions - even with normal-lenght features. It's just their local habit.

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Aaron Garman
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I don't know the time stamp, but if you were to place the intermission where it was on the roadshow, it would go right after Bob the Mexican closes the piano. I believe there is a hard cut to black at that moment.

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Michael Kurtzke
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The cut to black is at 1:34:55. Unlike the Roadshow prints, there is still sound between the chapters [some wind howling].

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Annli Com
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Dear All
The Movie HATEFULL EIGHT 2 PART CPL Available
Contact Your Content Service Provider,
we are in india the movie playing in 2 part CPL.

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James Waite
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Personally I don't care if we are 'allowed' to insert an intermission or not. I was kind of insulted that just because I couldn't make it to a 70mm show I had to try to sit through a 3 hour movie having to take a leak the last hour.

If the Roadshow version has an intermission then the DCP one should too.

My server does have an intermission function so I'll play with it. It seems to play a separate playlist during the intermission. Maybe I can find one of those countdown clocks online.

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Carsten Kurz
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https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=countdown+clock+15+min

+ dcp-o-matic

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Pietro Clarici
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In Italy we have been told that Tarantino himself requested an intermission to be placed at 1.35.40, basically the same spot Carsten mentioned. The voiceover in Chapter 4 says "we left our characters 15 minutes ago...", I think they got this line straight from the roadshow version. Could have changed it to "a few minutes ago" to be less specific, or we could have done it locally since we dub everything anyway.

I would also have appreciated if they left out the sound from the black segment, or at least faded out. We have to cut while sound is still playing, feels a little unprofessional.

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Carsten Kurz
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Couldn't you do an audio fade on the cheap by issuing a few fader commands in the SPL?

Our AP20 has configurable fade to/from for format changes.

I wish there was something like that for picture as well ;-)

- Carsten

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