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Reeves Watson
Film Handler

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From: Colchester, Essex, UK
Registered: Oct 2015


 - posted 03-08-2016 06:10 AM      Profile for Reeves Watson   Author's Homepage   Email Reeves Watson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Morning All,

Quite simply where can we get these from, currently we rip from Youtube and convert to DCP however the difference between this and the ones we receive randomly is really noticable especially with regards to sound. We are in the UK and our film booking agent is unclear on where we should source these?

Any help would be great.

Thanks

Reeves

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Carsten Kurz
Film God

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From: Cologne, NRW, Germany
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 - posted 03-08-2016 06:56 AM      Profile for Carsten Kurz   Email Carsten Kurz   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Did you ask other UK cinema operators? Seems that throughout europe, it has become the norm to download your trailers from various sites, some operated by the distributors, some operated by mastering houses. We do find one or two trailers occasionally on our feature drives, but when we check we usually have them downloaded earlier already.

It's a bit of a pain to actually locate a specific trailer, but in the end, we always get them. Maybe add the question for trailers to your regular booking call?

- Carsten

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Ross McLaughlin
Film Handler

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From: Worthing, West Sussex, UK
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 - posted 03-09-2016 05:23 PM      Profile for Ross McLaughlin   Email Ross McLaughlin   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi Reeves,

There's multiple different places to get them from depending on distributor - some send over internet, Sony & Fox tend to send USB sticks and Universal sends on DVD.

Creo deal with Universal & BFI, MPD deal with Paramount & Sony, On Time Media deal with Warner and most of the others run in house.

Feel free to send me your email address and I'll send over a list of contacts you can try (you may need accounts with them though)

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Gavin Lewarne
Master Film Handler

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From: Plymouth, UK
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We have a similar, if opposite situation.

I seem to receive Trailers (on USB, DVD and Download links) for every single film being released - except the ones we are going to play.

Usually a call to the distributor gets us a link or a physical copy of it.

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Dennis Benjamin
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From: Denton, MD
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A resource that works well for me is:

HD-TRAILERS

I then use DCP-O-MATIC to convert them to a DCP.

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Marco Giustini
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so I (customer) pay a ticket and I'm then shown content taken from youtube?

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Dennis Benjamin
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We were talking about trailers, you know, previews. Not feature films.

Besides, if a film company wants thier product to be advertised, they should do a better job of getting thier content out there.

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Marco Giustini
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Yes I was talking about trailers too.
Yes it should be distributors' interest to send you proper trailers. But I would never show YouTube content in my cinema, sorry.
YouTube can be seen at home. People pay a premium to see D-cinema. I'd call the distributor til they'd send me the trailer I want to get rid of me! [Smile]

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Dennis Benjamin
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If you convert a 1080p trailer (I do not use Youtube) - it is virtually identical visually to what the film companies send us. The only issue I've ever had is the sound is usually in two channels..

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Ross McLaughlin
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From: Worthing, West Sussex, UK
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Problem being, sometimes it takes a while to get the trailers. If they send them to me through courier, that means a Wed-Fri delivery. If I order it after Tuesday, that means it likely won't get to me til following Wednesday at the earliest. It might be their film I'm advertising, but it's our footfall I'm worried about. You'd be surprised how hard it is to tell a 1080p youtube rip from the reel deal. Far from ideal but a useful backup if I get an upcoming film dropped on me at short notice

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Marco Giustini
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Sorry, I won't be persuaded of that.
P3 colour space, 4:4:4, PCM and similar words are important to me. It's called digital cinema for a reason.
I know it's not easy to source trailers but as I said I'd never show one to my audience. I'd be pestering the distributor to death!

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Mike Blakesley
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Having a "less than ideal" trailer would be better than not having any trailer, especially if it's a movie that needs the advertising help and if it's a competitive market. "Something" is better than nothing. Nobody is paying to see the trailers.

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Marco Giustini
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Absolutely. But we cannot address it as a good alternative, we cannot say "it is virtually identical visually to what the film companies send us" or "You'd be surprised how hard it is to tell a 1080p youtube rip from the reel deal". I cannot accept that.

The consequence will be that one day the distributor will tell you "just download it from youtube" and one day the main feature will come from a 4:2:2 master with MP3 audio to save an extra step since "it's virtually identical".

I understand what you're trying to do but if I had a cinema I would pester the distributor to death for every single trailer I need.

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Monte L Fullmer
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From: Nampa, Idaho, USA
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 - posted 03-16-2016 04:29 AM      Profile for Monte L Fullmer   Email Monte L Fullmer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Could tag trailers from IMDB .... - Monte

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