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Author Topic: Dolby Spheres Policy Trailer Justin Hamaker Film God Posts: 2253 From: Lakeport, CA USA Registered: Jan 2004 posted 05-23-2016 11:48 AM                        Does anyone have a contact with Dolby for someone who would handle the Dolby Balls trailer. Hollywood Software (Cinedigm) recently did an update to the TCC software where it will assign formats to the auditoriums automatically. However, the name for the CPL is different between the 5.1 and 7.1. I was hoping to contact someone with Dolby to see if it would be possible to get versions where the name was consistent between the two. As far as it goes, does anyone know if Dolby has plans to release a new version since the Balls trailer is about 6 years old?  |  IP: Logged Manny Knowles "What are these things and WHY are they BLUE???" Posts: 4247 From: Bloomington, IN, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 05-23-2016 12:03 PM                     Last marketing contact I had at Dolby (last year) was Kristin Tedesco Field Marketing Manager, Americas Dolby Laboratories 3601 W Alameda Ave Burbank, CA 91505 Kristin.Tedesco at dolby d o t com I'm curious though... Why do you want your 5.1 and 7.1 versions to have the same name?  |  IP: Logged Scott Norwood Film God Posts: 8146 From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 05-23-2016 12:36 PM                        Do you have (or can you get) the trailers onto a computer (Dolby and Doremi servers can export to a flash drive or CRU drive)? If so, you can re-wrap them using OpenDCP and give them whatever CPL name you like.  |  IP: Logged Justin Hamaker Film God Posts: 2253 From: Lakeport, CA USA Registered: Jan 2004 posted 05-23-2016 12:54 PM                        Scott, I'll look at that. Manny, It's not that I want them to literally have the same name. It's that right now the 5.1 is "Dolby Spheres Corp" and the 7.1 is "Dolby Spheres". In order for the TMS to assign a version, they have to be named the same  |  IP: Logged Manny Knowles "What are these things and WHY are they BLUE???" Posts: 4247 From: Bloomington, IN, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 05-23-2016 12:58 PM                     Oh yes. I understand. Doing it the manual way, it drives me nuts that they have different names. BTW the THX trailers have whacky names too -- gotta look in different places for them (Trailers, Miscellaneous)  |  IP: Logged Jim Cassedy Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1661 From: San Francisco, CA Registered: Dec 2006 posted 05-23-2016 01:37 PM                     I assume you're speaking of the "Spheres" bumper, since I'm not aware of them ever having ones named "balls" If you need new copies, I have them zipped on one of my computers, if you send me a PM with your e-mail address I can send you a WE TRANSFER link to download from, and then I would consider using the method Scott suggested to re-name them. Although I work in Dolby's screening room/theater, I cannot officially speak for them- - but IMO (In My Observation) most of their current trailer/bumper output is now ATMOS-centric and although all the older clips are still available, I'd be very surprised if they had any desire or plans to update any of the older content.  |  IP: Logged Justin Hamaker Film God Posts: 2253 From: Lakeport, CA USA Registered: Jan 2004 posted 05-23-2016 01:40 PM                        Thanks Jim, message sent. I also edited the post to say Spheres instead of Balls.  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 05-23-2016 03:32 PM                     The TCC always had the ability to have multiple versions assigned to the same name. In Title Mapping one would use the same Title name with a different Title Version. This is how Flat/Scope version of trailers have always worked. Our customers always had Spheres show up on 7.1 movies (only). Via the Config sheets one can do the Title Versions and assign them as markers. We then used separate templates for 7.1 (and 3D) so the varioius snipes show up where they should in the show play list. With respect to TCC 3.5.3.0, you no longer have to add them via the config sheet but can now create markers out of any content. If you are planning on using the new screen attributes feature for this, you will liikely be boasting 7.1 for all movies (including 5.1) in 7.1 capable theatres. Instead, 7.1 should only be shown if the FEATURE is 7.1. If the segment function "same as feature" in say the "logos" segment then perhaps this will work for you. But I would think that using the 5.1 Spheres would be more confusing. I don't thnk they should have ever made a 5.1 version. When one sees/hears it, it should be the clue that the feature is in 7.1. At least that is my opinion on it. Let us know how it works out.  |  IP: Logged Justin Hamaker Film God Posts: 2253 From: Lakeport, CA USA Registered: Jan 2004 posted 05-23-2016 03:35 PM                        quote: Steve Guttag I don't thnk they should have ever made a 5.1 version. When one sees/hears it, it should be the clue that the feature is in 7.1. I agree with this. Or at least have something different and unique for 7.1. I like having this right before the feature on all movies because it becomes a cue for the audience that the show is starting.  |  IP: Logged Manny Knowles "What are these things and WHY are they BLUE???" Posts: 4247 From: Bloomington, IN, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 05-23-2016 04:05 PM                     Purely speculative, but loosely related: I'd bet that the idea for the Spheres trailer came from a novelty recording of a game of ping pong. Anecdotal, but somewhat related: This aspect of our system -- selecting 5.1 or 7.1 playback -- must be manually selected or manually programmed into the DCP play list. Once I forgot to engage the 7.1 and the tell-tale signs were the absence of the initial two volleys, and the word "around" near the end. And, of course, the "7.1" logo did not appear on-screen. Fortunately, I test every show privately, so there was ample time to make the fix. Here's how we cue the audience that the feature is about to start: The lights go all the way down A message appears on-screen saying "turn off all electronic devices."  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 05-23-2016 04:14 PM                     Sent you links.  |  IP: Logged Justin Hamaker Film God Posts: 2253 From: Lakeport, CA USA Registered: Jan 2004 posted 05-23-2016 05:22 PM                        quote: Manny Knowles Once I forgot to engage the 7.1 and the tell-tale signs were the absence of the initial two volleys, and the word "around" near the end. When I'm mapping the titles I have to specify 5.1 of 7.1 sound. When I specify 7.1, the system automatically throws in whatever 7.1 cues are needed. I do find this kind of bothersome since the sound format is right there in the CPL. I don't know if it's the TCC not reading meta data or the CPL not containing the meta data. Either way, this should be automatic. The recent change to the Hollywood Software TCC allows you to map multiple CPLs to the same title version, then it automatically chooses the best content based on the specifics of the auditorium and how you have things prioritized. Brad, thanks for the links. I am downloading now.  |  IP: Logged Ken Lackner Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1907 From: Atlanta, GA, USA Registered: Sep 2001 posted 05-24-2016 06:51 AM                     I'm slightly confused. The only Spheres policy I'm aware of has a female voice that whispers "All...Around...You" which starts in the right surround and pans around to the back and then the left. It's designed to advertise the Dolby 7.1DS format. Is there also a version that does not have the "all around you" for 5.1?  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 05-24-2016 10:58 AM                     Yup  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 05-24-2016 12:33 PM                        We use a 5.1 version that DOES say "All around you." I tend to use the Countdown trailer more often because Spheres is obnoxious and annoying after a while. I sure wish Dolby gave a crap about getting their name out there and would create some more trailers (and actually distribute them to theaters).  |  IP: Logged

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