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Author Topic: Nec 900C v Barco DP2K-6E Jerzy Gwizdz Film Handler Posts: 25 From: Nowy Sacz Malopolska Poland Registered: Apr 2015 posted 05-24-2016 12:08 PM                        Hello please opinion that the projector is better Nec NC900C or Barco DP2K-6E  |  IP: Logged Carsten Kurz Film God Posts: 4340 From: Cologne, NRW, Germany Registered: Aug 2009 posted 05-24-2016 05:50 PM                     We just canceled an NC900C and bought a DP2K-6E instead, so, in MY opinion, the DP2K-6E is the better machine. The only thing I am missing on it a bit is a real dowser. The Alchemy server is the better choice over the typical NC900 (IMS) options. The 6E also has quite a bit more light, so, may also be the better choice for (small) 3D screens. The NEC has a slightly broader range of lenses, and better air filtering. The Barco also is less noisy. In germany, the Barco is also cheaper than the NEC. - Carsten  |  IP: Logged Marco Giustini Film God Posts: 2713 From: Reading, UK Registered: Nov 2007 posted 05-25-2016 01:11 AM                     I thought the 6E had good air filtering? The filters are proper ones and the S10 issue should have been rectified on the 6E.  |  IP: Logged Carsten Kurz Film God Posts: 4340 From: Cologne, NRW, Germany Registered: Aug 2009 posted 05-25-2016 05:36 AM                     Alright, I should have been more precise, the 6E has the same lens mount related dust issues as the 8Sx/10Sx. - Carsten  |  IP: Logged Marin Zorica Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 671 From: Biograd na Moru, Croatia Registered: May 2003 posted 05-25-2016 05:52 AM                     I would stay on Barco too. Only thing i do not like, but when you think it might not be big deal for small projector is lense chose on barco, max throw you can get on 6E/10sx/8sx is 3.9.....so if you say still have some old cinema, which is long but thin, which was commong thing in 40's and 50's which later went from 1:1,37 only to scope. So 6-7m widescreen on 25m throw you're short there with Barco on Flat format.  |  IP: Logged Marco Giustini Film God Posts: 2713 From: Reading, UK Registered: Nov 2007 posted 05-26-2016 01:11 AM                     Thanks Carsten. I thought the issue was coming from the main filter not properly seating on the gasket. Surely this could be addressed by Barco?  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 05-26-2016 03:54 PM                     I've had great luck with the 30 some odd NC-900's I have installed. There were lamp issues but the lamp and ballast were redesigned and that part has settled down now. And who on earth would ever sell an IMS to a theater? What a piece of crap. If you do then take your right hand and slap your self in the face as hard as you can. You should be selling the SX-3000, its light years ahead of any of the IMS's. Mark  |  IP: Logged Jerzy Gwizdz Film Handler Posts: 25 From: Nowy Sacz Malopolska Poland Registered: Apr 2015 posted 05-27-2016 02:43 AM                        Thanks to all for your opinions. Carsten what's going on with the dowser in 6E?  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 05-27-2016 11:23 AM                     There is none...nothing going on. It just doesn't exist on the economy model. And I dare say Mark, you've never tried the Barco Alchemy server to be able to judge how good it is or isn't. We all get that you are a fanboy for NEC and GDC...it's a given.  |  IP: Logged David Buckley Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 525 From: Oxford, N. Canterbury, New Zealand Registered: Aug 2004 posted 05-27-2016 04:16 PM                        quote: Steve Guttag There is none...nothing going on. It just doesn't exist on the economy model. Though it pretends to all the world that it is. It's like a "shutter" on a consumer level projector, it just blanks the image drive.  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 05-27-2016 09:06 PM                     I have absolutely no reason for me to try it Steve. I already have a really good-reliable product base installed. Mark  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 05-28-2016 08:35 AM                     I'm not telling you to. But shut up about products you have no experience with because you can offer no valuable information. But consider this, until you check out other things, you'll never know what you are missing.  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 05-31-2016 12:48 PM                     Ya can't argue with the success and reliability of the equipment I've installed that does the job its supposed to do. You can take your over priced Barco's and stuff em, but no doubt you make a tidy profit off servicing them! I have had so many odd issues with Barcos that I stopped servicing them all together, it's just not worth the hassle. Like the guy with the clogged light engine...Sheesh, that's ridiculous to even have happen! Rarely does one even really need to change coolant in an NEC, just be sure it's at the correct level. 335 NEC - GDC systems and only a couple of blips in six years is pretty dam good reliability. Christies are still ok for the most part though and I do service and still recommend them on occasion. Mark  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 05-31-2016 02:41 PM                     I can and will argue (as will many others). Your experience is bordering on "unique." Nobody has the reliability that you claim. I also don't "make a tidy profit" out of fixing Barcos. Quite the contrary, they are the easiest to keep going. And, they get 20% more light on any give wattage lamp than the projectors YOU use. Don't get me wrong, I like NEC well enough and they have NOT been problematic, except for the NC900 (which even you would have to admit is not designed well from a service standpoint). But to the point on this subject...you have no clue as to how good or bad the Alchemy is. It is definitely a generation ahead of any other server out there and it has been in the field for over a year to get its bugs worked out. People that have them, like them. Your opinion as to the Alchemy versus any other server is worthless since you have no experience with them.  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 05-31-2016 06:28 PM                     With our Barco ESCAPE Install, I have the ICMP Alchemy server located in the "Baker" projector and Barco Commander, with the commander being either a web browser based along with software based interface. I find Commander to very user friendly like with the Doremi. Right now, the information from the ICMP can't be seen by the GDC TMS, yet Barco is working on a program or emulator that the ICMP can interface with the GDC. To get all content up to the ICMP, we have a NAS drive to ingest content into from the LMS, then transfer the content up to the ICMP. In the meantime, I have to log into the Commander to do my needed digital work. We do "Star Trek" in July in the Escape format. - Monte  |  IP: Logged

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