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Author Topic: Ghostbusters (2016) Aspect Ratio Justin Hamaker Film God Posts: 2253 From: Lakeport, CA USA Registered: Jan 2004 posted 07-06-2016 03:28 PM                        I received an email from Sony this morning indicating the aspect ratio of Ghostbusters is Flat for 3D and Scope for 2D. I don't recall any previous movie with different aspect ratios for 2D and 3D.  |  IP: Logged Marco Giustini Film God Posts: 2713 From: Reading, UK Registered: Nov 2007 posted 07-06-2016 03:40 PM                     They're probably putting 3D objects on the black bars so the movie is scope but they ask you to run it in flat so to see the black bars. That was the case with another one which I cannot remember right now. In 2D that's not required so it keeps a proper aspect ratio. Just my 2p opinion, haven't sent it yet  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 07-06-2016 04:05 PM                     Didn't they do that with Life of Pi?  |  IP: Logged Eric Hooper Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 532 From: Fort Worth, TX, USA Registered: May 2003 posted 07-06-2016 04:10 PM                     Does an email like this confuse all those theaters who are running scope features letterboxed on flat 1.85 screens anyways?  |  IP: Logged Matt Russell Expert Film Handler Posts: 142 From: Aurora, USA Registered: Aug 2015 posted 07-06-2016 04:11 PM                    It sounds like Disney's "floating window" technique for their 3D films and in the case of a scope movie, may have black bars around the frame. It'll probably turn out as Marco described, which is why they want the 3D shown in flat.  |  IP: Logged Mike Schulz Expert Film Handler Posts: 122 From: Los Angeles, CA Registered: May 2007 posted 07-06-2016 05:21 PM                     I remember Avatar having many different aspect ratios depending on which format it was played in, too.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 07-06-2016 06:01 PM                        quote: Marco Giustini They're probably putting 3D objects on the black bars so the movie is scope but they ask you to run it in flat so to see the black bars So the movie's gonna look letterboxed no matter what. That's ... awesome. The closer this gets, the more it seems to have "turd" written all over it. Aside from the trailers completely sucking, even the stars and the studio don't seem all that enthusiastic about it. Even the one-sheets are terrible.  |  IP: Logged Michael Brown Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1522 From: Bradford, England Registered: May 2001 posted 07-06-2016 07:28 PM                     The film they did this before was G-Force (3d Gini pig movie from 2009) The 3d version will run in flat, but is letterboxed scope and 3D effects will come out over the letterboxes.  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 07-06-2016 11:36 PM                     The 'scope format is a freaking sad, deplorable joke in movie theaters anymore. The biggest, best, most highest resolution format on 35mm is now the smallest and lowest resolution format. But. It's. Still. DIGITAL!!!!!!!!!!!!! Burp. I think the odd thing about the Ghostbusters all-female re-make, sequel or whatever the hell movie this is supposed to be is that it acknowledges the reality of how shitty many "modern" multiplex movie theaters have become. It's all about crappy common width screens. Not common height. In digital and common width oriented theater screens, 'scope is really the smaller and cheaper format. Yet us idiot water-brain babies at home think 'scope is always better. Hollywood is basically screwing us customers. And this gambit with Ghostbusters is a way for the global media elites to up the ante to underscore just how stupid us mindless customers really can be. Let us not forget about the lack of freaking MASKING!!!! "Oh but we're going to show some 3D movie stuff going above and below the black bars. It will be so special. You'll cream you jeans over this stuff!" This is essentially why we can be watching a TV style letterboxed movie, un-masked, in a commercial theater for 1st run ticket prices. Showmanship? Fuck you. By the way, thank you, IMAX, for really making this kind of crap standard. You really pioneered something there. I wonder if the "IMAX" version is going to be treated the same way. Or will it be rendered differently, like a full imager 2048 X 1080 image for 2K and 4096 X 2160 for those 3 or 4 laser installations IMAX has. They don't seem to have any more than 3 or 4 laser systems installed. Otherwise they might actually list the shit specifically on their website instead of implying that all "IMAX" theaters are the same.  |  IP: Logged Matt Smith Film Handler Posts: 19 From: Newport Pagnell, Buckinghamshire, England Registered: Apr 2016 posted 07-07-2016 02:13 AM                    We got an e-mail asking us to read the projection specifications, without actually attaching the specifications but I figured it would be something like this. You can see from the trailers the effect when they fire the proton streams and they come out of the frame.  |  IP: Logged Marco Giustini Film God Posts: 2713 From: Reading, UK Registered: Nov 2007 posted 07-07-2016 03:20 PM                     Matt The specification disappeared like a ghost... Ok, that's bad! So to show a few fancy proton effects they run the whole movie in letterbox. What are those people thinking?  |  IP: Logged Jesse Skeen Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1517 From: Sacramento, CA Registered: Aug 2000 posted 07-07-2016 06:15 PM                     How bout doing a 3D movie in 1.85, but have it be shown in 2.35 with side bars so effects can come out of those? I thought the "stuff in the black bars" on G-Force was done just for the Blu-Ray, at least I know now it wasn't changed from the theatrical version, as more irrelevant as that gets.  |  IP: Logged Gordon McLeod Film God Posts: 9532 From: Toronto Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 99 posted 07-07-2016 06:28 PM                     The black bars allow objects to travel in front of the screen with out the odd being chopped off by the masking it actually has been often mentioned in many old 3d publications as part of the ideal 3d setup So if one doesn't like it don't go I am getting a little tired of the same people bemoaning that scope is now inferior to flat The public has chosen to patronize stadium theatre over sloped floor and the geometry of those rooms vs the cost to build will favor a squarer screen format. And this is a business not a high art form so some of you get off the high horses Digital Imax even though not as good as 15/70 is here to stay fixed width screens are here to stay and will only change if the customers choose to stay away end of rant  |  IP: Logged Marcel Birgelen Film God Posts: 3357 From: Maastricht, Limburg, Netherlands Registered: Feb 2012 posted 07-08-2016 02:22 AM                     There are sufficient theaters out there that combine stadium seating with "scope sized" screens. Maybe most converted "sloped floor" theaters don't really have the geometry to do it properly, but that's no excuse for new builds. A few years back, it seemed like scope was dying as an aspect ratio, but I'd say it's the dominant format for big budget Hollywood productions right now. Many of those Digital IMAX and PLF thingies are showing scope movies, which are supposed to be shown BIGGER than flat, in unmasked letterboxed form. Therefore it's major pita scope being treated so poorly.  |  IP: Logged Matt Smith Film Handler Posts: 19 From: Newport Pagnell, Buckinghamshire, England Registered: Apr 2016 posted 07-08-2016 12:24 PM                    Here is the letter that comes with the drive explaining the effect for those that are interested. I'm really looking forward to seeing this in IMAX 3D on Monday!  |  IP: Logged

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