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Marcel Birgelen
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From: Maastricht, Limburg, Netherlands
Registered: Feb 2012
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posted 08-16-2018 10:09 AM
I agree with Sam that the price is somewhat on the high end, but it's hard to judge the local market. You can probably get it cheaper in Europe or U.S.A., but then you have to calculate in the shipping costs and potential import tariffs.
It's also worth something to have somebody around that has some experience with those machines, because setting them up correctly and maintaining them is still something that can best be done by a trained technician.
Also, if the price really includes a DCI server in good condition and the projector is in good condition too, then it's actually not that bad in my opinion.
If the lamp has a warranty of 750 hours, then it's probably a 2.4KW lamp. You should check the wattage of the installed lamp and match this against your screen size too.
Regarding the DCI server: This is a series 1 projector, so there must be some kind of external server. Please check the make and model of that.
Edit:
You posted the link while I was writing my post.
1. I don't see anything on that page that states it includes a DCI server. Maybe it's a special offer or you're missing something.
2. For a 4x2m screen, loaded with a 3kW lamp, this is highly overpowered. I'd try to get my hands on a 2nd hand NEC 900C with integrated IMS for roughly the same price. That's a Series II projector, will run more efficient, with less heat and noise and the lamps are cheaper than comparable Xenon lamps.
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Dave Macaulay
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From: Toronto, Canada
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 08-16-2018 11:09 AM
Projector hours "please ask"...?
This is a rather (very?) high price for a DP2000 unless it has VERY low hours. Note that the hours are saved on one of the cards, which could be from a different projector.
These can be found in the US for under USD$10,000.00, sometimes much less... firms liquidating closed cinemas don't always know what stuff is worth and the auctions rarely have reserve bids so they can be picked up a lot cheaper if you keep your eyes on auctions. Not much use for you I suppose, but still...
This is a massively overpowered machine for your screen. I'm not sure what the minimum lamp size is, maybe 1000W. And it's loud. The button panels on the DP2000s I handle have pretty much all failed by now, and the replacement is $$$... all you really need is one channel button that works to be able to clear security errors. You will need a PC to control it anyway, the control program is free at least. The Barco touchpanel is OK but very expensive for something a $100.00 used laptop can do.
There's no mention of a server in the linked ad and I don't know of any "integrated" server for a DP2000.
Series 2 projectors are rare in the used market. But they will show up, unless you really need a projector I would skip this one. Be aware that some parts - the light engine and TI boards particularly - are very costly, a failure may happen any time. Paying the nut for a new projector with warranty gives you a few years of no worries that way. A Barco 6E is all you need for your screen size, or equivalent NEC (avoid Christies).
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Carsten Kurz
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From: Cologne, NRW, Germany
Registered: Aug 2009
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posted 08-16-2018 05:53 PM
I don't know which options you have to buy used gear in your area or elsewhere including transport, but, for a series 1 projector, essentially no warranty, issues with replacement parts, local support, etc, I would stay away from that offer and think again. The second hand market for series 2 entry level machines is not huge, but it exists (e.g. NEC NC900). I have seen offers for NC900 including server for less than you have been quoted the DP2000. Not in Nigeria though.
- Carsten
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Leo Enticknap
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From: Loma Linda, CA
Registered: Jul 2000
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posted 08-17-2018 10:46 AM
Sorry to be a party pooper, but one of the reasons why the price may be so high (and agreed - that's at least 30% more than I'd expect to see a DP2000 with, say, 10 years' use and still in good operating condition go for in the US) could be the existence of significant import tariffs, and other legal and regulatory hurdles, that could mean that what you'd pay to import a projector from overseas would add up to a lot more than just the shipping bill. As an example, I understand that Brazil imposes a 100% import tariff on most industrial electronics (and I'm sure we've all read the news about a certain red-headed politician and his Chinese counterparts on that subject!), and there are other countries that won't release your projector from the bonded warehouse until it has had safety modifications done to the power supply and inspected, etc. etc.
If importing is something you want to look seriously at, it might be worth investing in an hour of two of time from someone who is an expert in the laws and regulations around importing industrial machinery into Nigeria, to make sure that you aren't going to be caught by any unforeseen gotchas.
Parts, service and support availability in Nigeria for whatever brand you choose to buy is another consideration. I'm guessing that because a DP2000 is being offered for sale in the country, that Barco has a support presence in Nigeria. But I'd definitely want to check this out, as well.
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