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Lee Davies
Film Handler

Posts: 28
From: Bolton, England
Registered: Jul 2000

posted 03-08-2002 09:53 PM

UK Print.

20th Century Fox Distribution

Deluxe London

5 Reels
SR/SRD/DTS
Flat/1.85:1
No attached (hardlock) trailers.

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Aaron Sisemore
Flaming Ribs beat Reeses Peanut Butter Cups any day!

Posts: 3061
From: Rockwall TX USA
Registered: Sep 1999

posted 03-13-2002 08:59 PM

US prints are struck at Deluxe Toronto.

-Aaron

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Chase Taylor
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 175
From: Troy, Alabama, USA
Registered: Mar 2001

posted 03-13-2002 09:21 PM

20th Century Fox
5 reels
Flat Format (Hard Mat)
SR/SRD/DTS
ETS Depot

Attached: Star Wars Episode II
Loose in the Can:
Like Mike (20th Century Fox)
Spirit (DreamWorks)
Scooby Doo (WB)
E.T. (Universal)
Suart Little 2 (Sony)
Hey Arnold (Paramount)
The Country Bears (Buena Vista)
Crocodile Hunter (MGM)
Spy Kids 2 (Miramax)

My print says "Premier" on the can, and is printed on 2393 Vision Premier Stock. Did I get this print on mistake (small town 13,000 people) or is everyone's print like this.

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John Pytlak
Film God

Posts: 9987
From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
Registered: Jan 2000

posted 03-14-2002 06:28 AM

Kodak VISION Premier Color Print Film is often preferred for animated features because it allows more saturated colors:
http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/products/lab/2393.shtml

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John T. Hendrickson, Jr
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 889
From: Freehold, NJ, USA
Registered: Apr 2001

posted 03-14-2002 05:28 PM

Both my prints had a splice following the "attached" trailer of Star Wars. Unfortunately, following the splice was that nasty leader with the white edges opposite the soundtrack that Fox is famous for. The problem is that if you excize all of those frames, you will cut off part of the analog soundtrack. Great choice, Fox- either you treat your audience to flashes of white on the right side of the screen, or you cut the drum roll.

Delux lab ought to be shot!

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Ron Lacheur
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 650
From: British Columbia, Canada
Registered: Feb 2002

posted 03-15-2002 04:47 AM

The print I watched tonight had something wrong with the Fox fanfare, it has murky blotches all over it. It only is on the Fox logo and a few seconds into the feature.

I also noticed some CAP dots printed on the film...

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Adam Wilbert
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 590
From: Bellingham, WA, USA
Registered: Mar 2002

posted 03-18-2002 04:50 AM

John,

My prints of Ice age went one further. In adittion to that white edged leader, my star wars trailers still had their tails on!

-adam

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Aldo Baez
Master Film Handler

Posts: 266
From: USA
Registered: Mar 2001

posted 03-19-2002 02:44 AM

My print of Ice Age was very dirty for a new print. I ran it through the cleaner and it looks fine now, but maybe it's just more noticeable since there is alot of white onscreen.

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John Pytlak
Film God

Posts: 9987
From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
Registered: Jan 2000

posted 03-19-2002 10:05 AM

Aldo Baez said: "My print of Ice Age was very dirty for a new print. I ran it through the cleaner and it looks fine now".

Sounds like the attached "Star Wars Episode 2" trailer was added in "positive assembly" or at the exchange. So it may have picked up some (mis-) handling dirt.

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David Stambaugh
Film God

Posts: 4021
From: Eugene, Oregon
Registered: Jan 2002

posted 03-19-2002 11:01 AM

I noted in my "review" that the print I saw was a little dirty.

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Brad Miller
Administrator

Posts: 17775
From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
Registered: May 99

posted 03-19-2002 01:03 PM

To all: A print being dirty is most always the fault of the theater you saw it at. In the instance the film arrived dirty, please do not post this sort of thing in this forum. That is what the Yak forum is for.

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John Pytlak
Film God

Posts: 9987
From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
Registered: Jan 2000

posted 03-19-2002 03:19 PM

In this case, it appears that there may be a pattern of having extra black dirt on the prints, perhaps related to the extra film handling in attaching the "Star Wars Episode 2" trailer. If the theatre routinely uses an effective film cleaner (Film Done Right!), it sounds like the dirt is cleaned off easily.

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Scott Norwood
Film God

Posts: 8146
From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas)
Registered: Jun 99

posted 03-21-2002 10:04 PM

What's up with the position of the reel changes in this film? It seems like every one occurs at a really bad time. I used to think that Brad was crazy to suggest not leaving an ID frame when making up a print for large-reel or platter exhibition, but now I'm not so sure, particularly in this case. Having quick cuts and important dialogue immediately before or after a reel change is just silly....

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