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Brad Miller
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From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
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posted 08-15-2002 08:39 PM

***TRADE SCREENING***
***UNFINISHED WORK PRINT***

6 reels
2.39 scope
Buena Vista
TES depot
SRD (although final prints should be SRD/DTS/SDDS)

Nothing attached. Loose: Tuck Everlasting and Shanghai Knights

WARNING!!! Reel 4 is printed about 1/4 of a perforation out of frame! Framing on these trade screening prints will be necessary for this one reel.

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John Pytlak
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posted 08-15-2002 08:46 PM

Is it PRINTED out of frame (framelines change position), or COMPOSED out of frame? Was it shot with anamorphic lenses or Super-35?

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Brad Miller
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posted 08-15-2002 11:18 PM

Awwwww, come on John. Who you talkin' to?

It was PRINTED out of frame.

I'll post an example pic tomorrow.

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John Pytlak
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posted 08-16-2002 07:58 AM

I noted that you said workprint. So I was just exploring whether they extracted the wrong image area from a Super-35 negative, or if the framelines on the print were indeed shifted due to a problem with the contact printer.

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Jason Black
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posted 08-25-2002 02:04 PM

Hey Brad, where's the example pic?

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Brad Miller
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posted 08-25-2002 02:21 PM

Why it's right here.

Now note carefully the position of the frame line in between the perforations at the end of reel 3 here...

Sure it's off just a tad, but the whole movie was like that. NOW take a look at where the frame lines are in reel 4...

The end result is that it looks like the reel change splice was made out of frame and the projectionist screwed up. Not so. Beware!

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Jason Black
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posted 08-25-2002 03:17 PM

Such a fast response! Impressive. I'll show this to my guys so that they are aware that the *potential* problem exists.

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John Pytlak
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posted 08-26-2002 11:16 AM

Much too much shift to be explained by bi-directional printing of the release prints (would typically be only 0.078 - 0.073 = 0.005 inches).
And release prints from Technicolor are usually done in one direction only.

Suspect the shift happened "upstream" of the final printing, during the printing of the master positive or duplicate negative.

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Josh Kirkhart
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posted 09-27-2002 06:03 AM

6 Reels
Quad
Scope
TES

Attached
Tuck Everlasting
Loose
Ring-full
Emperors Club
Two weeks Notice
Maid in America
A Guy Thing

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Brad Miller
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posted 09-27-2002 06:23 AM

Did they fix the problem with reel 4 on the final release prints?

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Jason Black
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posted 09-27-2002 09:01 AM

No problems with my 2 prints.

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Jason Whyte
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posted 09-29-2002 07:48 PM

Also no problems with the print I worked on.

Jason (first time poster, long time visitor)

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