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Author Topic: The Rules of Attraction (2002) Jeffry L. Johnson Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 809 From: Cleveland, Ohio, USA Registered: Apr 2000 posted 09-16-2002 09:32 PM                        The Rules of Attraction Lions Gate Films 6 reels Flat 1.85:1 Dolby SR Kodak 2383 TES Note: Reel 6 soundtrack continues throughout foot leader.  |  IP: Logged Mathew Molloy Master Film Handler Posts: 357 From: The Santa Cruz Mountains Registered: Nov 2000 posted 09-21-2002 01:15 AM                     Jeffrey, I don't think it's the release print you ran as the credits are incomplete. Look closely and you'll see things like "song list goes here" or "gaffer tba". I've run 3 versions of this now with one to go next week and the credit sequence gets longer every time.  |  IP: Logged Mathew Molloy Master Film Handler Posts: 357 From: The Santa Cruz Mountains Registered: Nov 2000 posted 10-02-2002 02:31 AM                     Just wanted to add that the release print's credit sequence is complete and the sound no longer 'tails out'. FYI the credit sequence in this film runs in reverse but the blue "R" band is still at the end. No attached trailers on this release either (print #33) but reel 2 had a lab problem with the picture 'bouncing' the first 30 seconds and the last 30 seconds of the reel. I would just like to add that although I thoroughly detest this film, it has some of the best changeover moments. (Reel 1 - changeover on the final beat of a song by The Cure, Reel 2 - Door slam, etc.)  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 10-02-2002 02:46 AM                     Ugh, I wonder how long those changeovers will be able to be effective, as especially in the art house circuit people in general don't seem to care and will chop off those frames like crazy.  |  IP: Logged James R. Hammonds, Jr Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 931 From: Houston, TX, USA Registered: Nov 2000 posted 10-11-2002 02:42 AM                     Attached: House of 1000 Corpses Head leaders say SR Two sound logos during the credits One says Dolby in select theatres The other says MONO SR Question about that in a new thread will be posted soon.  |  IP: Logged Alex Grasic Film Handler Posts: 90 From: Toronto, ON, Canada Registered: Jul 2002 posted 10-11-2002 02:53 AM                     Brad, I guess that's why I've heard so much for NOT leaving ID frames which is important in cases like this. I just ran through my copy without cutting ID frames and it sounds beautiful! I just hope the next guys who get our print won't decide to snip the frame.  |  IP: Logged Steve Kraus Film God Posts: 4094 From: Chicago, IL, USA Registered: May 2000 posted 10-11-2002 09:33 PM                    There is no justification for making another cut. If they do it'll be because they are too lazy to peel your splice and someone like that would make a new cut even if there was already an ID frame there; they would make yet another cut one frame farther in. The reason I say there is no justification is that even though I advocate leaving an ID frame (except in rare situations) that's something that would have to be done on the first build. Once the cut has been made between black and the first or last frame the absolute proof offered by an ID frame is gone. Leaving a frame with the leader serves no purpose if that frame is connected via a splice instead of contiguous. This is not a argument pro or con on ID frames but simply pointing out that whatever advantages they do or do not bring, it must be done on first build to have any worth.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 10-11-2002 11:03 PM                     Please no chit chat. You may dredge up an old thread on this if you like, or start a new one, but please not in this forum.  |  IP: Logged Michael Brown Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1522 From: Bradford, England Registered: May 2001 posted 04-05-2003 02:40 PM                     Note that the end credits runs 'backwards' and there are a lot of other backwards sequences in the film.  |  IP: Logged Scott Norwood Film God Posts: 8146 From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 06-07-2003 02:28 AM                        What Mathew said. Running this with manual changeovers provides more entertainment value that the film itself does. And, yes, I got all of them perfect (not frame accurate, but pretty darn close).  |  IP: Logged

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