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Author Topic: The Umbrellas of Cherbourg / Les Parapluies de Cherbourg (1964) Tao Yue Expert Film Handler Posts: 209 From: Princeton, NJ Registered: Apr 2001 posted 02-12-2003 02:08 AM                        The Umbrellas of Cherbourg 1993 restoration US distributor: Zeitgeist Films Stored at IWC Media Services, Long Island, shipped by Fedex 5 reels flat 1.66:1 Dolby SR printed at Laboratoire Eclair Neg edges say "Agfa Gevaert" (presumably the o-neg) and "Eastman Safety Film" with X(circle)(triangle) and a 1986 datecode (?). Print quality is so-so, about what you'd expect for a 10-year old print. Both the platter people and the changeover people have taken their toll: leaders are really beat up, lots of footage lost at heads and tails due to ID frames being cut, five layers of splicing tape, etc. Other than that, not too bad.  |  IP: Logged John Pytlak Film God Posts: 9987 From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922 Registered: Jan 2000 posted 02-12-2003 07:20 AM                        Maybe you mean a plus-circle-triangle date code, which would be 1994 (more likely than 1986 for a 1993 restoration of the negative): http://www.kodak.com/country/US/en/motion/support/h1/identificationP.shtml#135427 On a print, clear edgeprint against a dark background usually comes from the printing negative. Dark printing usually is the print film's edgecode.  |  IP: Logged Tao Yue Expert Film Handler Posts: 209 From: Princeton, NJ Registered: Apr 2001 posted 02-17-2003 04:27 PM                        No, it was an X, not a plus. The AGFA markings were white on black. The Kodak markings were blue on clear (letters looked like they were formed by LED) and said: 86 003 021 1 07 EASTMAN SAFETY FILM X(circle)(triangle). Nothing else I could find on the print, but the heads and tails have lost a *lot* of ID frames.  |  IP: Logged Christian Appelt Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 505 From: Frankfurt, Germany Registered: Dec 2001 posted 02-23-2003 05:43 PM                     To call this release a restoration is a big fat LIE! What they did it make a new dupe negative from the Tech IB print they found, then new prints were struck. Duplicating a Tech IB print is NOT the way to get a good quality dupe, and certainly it is not restoration work! The colors (in the European release prints I saw) are too bright, the image is quite grainy and not very sharp. There would have been other ways of correcting color problems, but they chose the easiest (and probably cheapest) way.  |  IP: Logged John Pytlak Film God Posts: 9987 From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922 Registered: Jan 2000 posted 02-25-2003 04:13 PM                        I agree that making an internegative from a projection-contrast release print is not the optimal way to make copies. What happened to the original negative or protection masters?  |  IP: Logged

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