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Author Topic: Ben-Hur (Request) Aaron Garman Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1470 From: Toledo, OH USA Registered: Mar 2003 posted 03-09-2005 01:38 AM                     I saw that the performing arts centre here at Notre Dame is getting this film around Easter and the website says it will be a 35mm print. Are there any decent prints of Ben-Hur in 35mm out there? They also have Lawrence coming in April, but I'm saw that there are some more recent 35mm prints of that one. Thoughts? AJG  |  IP: Logged Tao Yue Expert Film Handler Posts: 209 From: Princeton, NJ Registered: Apr 2001 posted 03-10-2005 12:33 AM                        Yes, there are good Dolby 35mm prints out there. These are cropped to 2.39 but the film was shot with some cropping in mind. Robert A. Harris keeps saying on Usenet and in interviews that the 70mm elements for this film are in poor condition. [ 04-15-2005, 11:47 PM: Message edited by: Tao Yue ]  |  IP: Logged System Notices Forum Watchdog / Soup Nazi Posts: 215 Registered: Apr 2004 posted 05-24-2008 11:09 AM                 It has been 1171 days since the last post.  |  IP: Logged Mike Olpin Chop Chop! Posts: 1852 From: Dallas, TX Registered: Jan 2002 posted 05-24-2008 11:09 AM                     Ben-Hur 35mm WB Archives Scope Dolby A Type 16 Reels Intermission at tail of reel 10 Overture at head of reels 1 & 11  |  IP: Logged Claude S. Ayakawa Film God Posts: 2738 From: Waipahu, Hawaii, USA Registered: Aug 2002 posted 05-24-2008 12:00 PM                        What about the exit music at the end of the last reel? -Claude  |  IP: Logged Mike Olpin Chop Chop! Posts: 1852 From: Dallas, TX Registered: Jan 2002 posted 05-24-2008 10:59 PM                     No exit music on this particular print.  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 05-24-2008 11:33 PM                     In 1970, I ran the Mag/Optical,IB-tech of this film. It was hard matted to retain the 2.77/1, Camera65 imagery. There was also a 165m release version (2.35/1,mono.eastman) of this film that drifted around.  |  IP: Logged System Notices Forum Watchdog / Soup Nazi Posts: 215 Registered: Apr 2004 posted 03-26-2013 07:10 PM                 It has been 1766 days since the last post.  |  IP: Logged Manny Knowles "What are these things and WHY are they BLUE???" Posts: 4247 From: Bloomington, IN, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 03-26-2013 07:10 PM                     4K DCP Delivered in 2 parts Part One 2hr 21min 43sec (238GB) Overture is about 6min 30sec "Intermission" on final shot Part Two 1hr 20min 25sec (138GB) Entr'Acte is about 3min 50sec No Exit Music Aspect Ratio is 2.76:1 (MGM Camera 65) In theatres with only 1.85 and 2.39, this will appear letterboxed inside 2.39 We experienced lip-sync issues with the DCP. I removed all delay from our processor (normally 100ms) but sound was still late by about a frame. I'd estimate it is laid-down about 4 frames behind picture, compared to other DCP's that have played fine over the past 27 months. I started a general discussion thread in the DIGITAL Forum. As usual, don't post here unless you have handled the print/DCP.  |  IP: Logged Manny Knowles "What are these things and WHY are they BLUE???" Posts: 4247 From: Bloomington, IN, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 03-26-2013 10:22 PM                     UPDATE -- my sync issue went away after rebooting the DSS200 and CP650. Since there was no Exit Music, I played a CD with the Overture after the final fade.  |  IP: Logged Manny Knowles "What are these things and WHY are they BLUE???" Posts: 4247 From: Bloomington, IN, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 03-27-2013 06:23 PM                     The word from Dolby is that the black frames during the Overture are the culprit. I was informed that the black frames were heavily compressed, possibly to save disk space. This problem came up a year ago with "Ben Hur" and this was their finding.  |  IP: Logged Christian Appelt Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 505 From: Frankfurt, Germany Registered: Dec 2001 posted 04-04-2013 05:43 AM                     Thanks, Manny, for providing the overture length. Our DCP of BEN-HUR came wrongly labeled as 2K and without any information on overture and intermission music length. The AWSM has the original roadshow instruction for presenting BEN-HUR.  |  IP: Logged

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