|
This topic comprises 2 pages: 1 2
|
Author
|
Topic: THE SOUND OF MUSIC (updated)
|
Frank Angel
Film God
Posts: 5305
From: Brooklyn NY USA
Registered: Dec 1999
|
posted 06-16-2005 12:42 AM
Title: ....... THE SOUND OF MUSIC Distrib: .....20th Cen Fox (thru Criterion) 35mm Print #: A1600 -- but this has been revised from what Vernon posted below. All reels are now stereo. You would think when they do make up better prints form other prints, that they would at least designate the change by a new print number.
Release #:....n/a Reels: .......12 Emulsion: ....Eastman Base: ........Estar Print Incept Date Code: none shown Run Time: 174min Trailers attached: None
Picture Format -- Anamorphic: 2.39
Sound format -- Analog: Stereo (all reels; none mono); these all just say STEREO in the soundtrack and the assumption is that with the introduction of SR, Dolby included SR in the soundtrack identification. i.e., if it doesn't say SR in the soundtrack but only STEREO, then it is Dolby A. Nowhere else, either on the print or on the cans is there a reference to SR. We assumed that because only STEREO was indicated that this was a Dolby A print. It sounded quite splended played back in Dolby A.
Digital: None
Cues: Most reels had lab cues. I believe two reels were hand made/clint etched
Scratches -- Base: Minor Emulsion: R3 evidently had run off a drive sprocket and has sprocket scratchs on the far right corner of the screen. They are there, but not terribly distracting, although they unnecessarilly mar an otherwise very nice print.
Leader splices: For some ungodly reason, 2 ID frames were left on both heads and tails. Luckily back then editors waited to make reel breaks in very quite scenes so here keeping the two frames with the leader does not cause any obvious loss. Now if ONLY the people who handle this print down the line resist the temptation to cut MORE frames.
I peeled of ALL splicing tape so both leader and film body ends are clean and there is NO REASON WHATSOEVER to make new cuts.
Body splices: most reels are splice free.
Color: Saturation very good and what you'd expect from a reduction print from 65mm neg (focus too). No fading; skin tones are accurate. Good blacks.
Continuity: Excellent
Physical Condition -- Overall: B+ (WB's print score) If it didn't have those sprocket scratches, it would be an A-, maybe even an A
NOTES:
Intermission at the end of R7 -- Interm
Cans are badly battered and bent. Latches are evil things with sharp edges and will cut you as soon as you touch them.
As noted below, there was an additional piece of film spliced onto R1 as "Overture" music, which, also as correctly noted, was not part of this Roadshow title. In fact, at the end of that music is a fade in of a picture that is a duplicate of the very beginning of R8, i.e. the Entr'acte music for Part II coming out of Intermission. Evidently the print lost the Entr'acte music at the top of R8 and new footage must have been ordered but was never spliced in the correct place, but just stuck onto R1. If one ran the print as we received it, the misplaced entr'acte music being used as an overture would end with a fade-in and a shot that would mysteriously go black and up would come the Fox logo. How the last guy didn't see that this was just wrong is the real mystery. We put this in the correct place in front of R8/Start of Part II
Also, there was exit music footage after the credits at the end of R12. Much to my dismay, we couldn't play it because it was butcherd and it ends in the middle of music, so it's worthless. It would be nice if replicement for this music footage were re-ordered.
The Intermission title (end of R7) as of 29 July 05 is intact. It has not been spliced. Let's see how long THAT can be sustained.
All in all, it was a wonder to see this great musical restored to more than what was in circulation for many years -- those terrible faded mono prints.
Criterion has to be commended for keeping this print in good condition. Reel bands would help to insure film from unraveling. We put a goodly amount of artist tape to hold town leaders, but not everyone will do that which could lead to lots of film damage in transit.
It might do well for Criterion to put big official-looking notices in the can saying DO NOT MAKE NEW SPLICE CUTS. CUT ONLY ON EXISTING SPLICES. PRINTS WILL BE INSPECTED AFTER EACH ENGAGEMENT. I've see notices like this on prints from Paramount and I must say, for the kid who's only seen some other kid whacking off a frame for every splice they make and thinks that's the way it's done, this might at least be a wakeup call that, at least for THIS print, you are not supposed to cut new frames. Hey, it couldn't hurt.
Original Post: They have it listed already in their brochure so presumably it's already booked (that's not always the case). This is not the bastardization sing-along crap, but the straight film.
Anyone know if there are any decent prints? The last time I ran it in the 80s there were nothing but 3 or 4 Films Inc. prints, horribly shifted to green(!) Also the one I got had a badly distorted mono soundtrack. And we all know where those Films Inc. prints wound up. If we get a print from that era, I will shoot myself.
Anyone run it recently?
Request #2. Anyone have a trailer they can loan me? [ 08-12-2005, 08:22 AM: Message edited by: Frank Angel ]
| IP: Logged
|
|
|
|
John Pytlak
Film God
Posts: 9987
From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
Registered: Jan 2000
|
posted 06-20-2005 09:37 AM
quote: Jonathan M. Crist I have an almost brand new 3 1/2 minute full trailer (flat format) from the 73 reissue that I could loan. On Eastman stock but only a very slight (almost imperceptible)pinkish cast.
Sounds like it was kept cool and dry, which really slows down changes in the older dyes. Kodak introduced improved types of dye couplers for color print film in 1979, with complete conversion by the early 1980's:
http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/products/chrono3.jhtml?id=0.1.4.28.6&lc=en
quote: 1979
EASTMAN Color LF Print film, 7378. Improved cyan dye post processing keeping. Process ECP. Markedly improved cyan dye dark-keeping stability. Discontinued January, 1982. EASTMAN Color LFSP film, 7379. Same as 7378 except for Process ECP-2. Markedly improved cyan dye dark-keeping stability.1 Discontinued 1983.
http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/products/chrono4.jhtml?id=0.1.4.28.8&lc=en
quote: 1982
EASTMAN Color Print film, 7/5384 Improved cyan dye dark keeping and red sensitivity to process variations. Process ECP-2A. Replaced 7/5381, 7/5383, 7378, 7379. In SMPTE Journal December 1982 and BKSTS Journal August 1983.
| IP: Logged
|
|
|
Vernon Cramer
Film Handler
Posts: 16
From: Virginia Beach, VA, USA
Registered: Mar 2002
|
posted 06-23-2005 06:37 PM
FOX Scope 2.40 SR (except as noted below) 12 reels Deluxe (?)
Criterion Print #A1600
NOTES:
1) This is one of a few prints Fox struck for a planned 30th anniversary limited theatrical release in 1995 that was scrubbed at the last minute. The prints sat at Fox for a few years, then most went to Criterion. Print was in great shape (color, no scratches, splices, etc, except as noted below).
2) The SR track (all reels except for Reel #2, see below) sounded good (CP-55, biamped JBL 4675s, 4641 subs, 8330 surrounds) though the mix seemed a little thin in some numbers, but not all. Organ in wedding sequence gave our system a workout.
3) Reel #1 had single shot of a few seconds that was completely red. Bizarre. Color on the rest of the reel was fine.
4) Reel #2 was from an earlier print, MONO track, some minor emulsion wear at head and tail, approximately 2 or 3 splices in the reel. Color was off slightly compared to rest of print, primarily in the blacks, not as noticable in other scenes. (We labeled the reel "MONO" before shipping print back.)
5) Entre'Act was MONO and spliced onto reel incorrectly, resulting in repeat of a couple of bars of music (Entre 'Act track runs a couple of seconds under fade in to 2nd half of film). Didn't have time to edit and remove excess audio.
6) For some unknown reason, another copy of the Entre 'Act, also in MONO, was spliced on to the head of reel #1 as an overture, but the original roadshow version did not have this.
7) We ran this print in July 2003 (corrected from earlier verion of this post). [ 07-08-2005, 01:53 PM: Message edited by: Vernon Cramer ]
| IP: Logged
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
All times are Central (GMT -6:00)
|
This topic comprises 2 pages: 1 2
|
Powered by Infopop Corporation
UBB.classicTM
6.3.1.2
The Film-Tech Forums are designed for various members related to the cinema industry to express their opinions, viewpoints and testimonials on various products, services and events based upon speculation, personal knowledge and factual information through use, therefore all views represented here allow no liability upon the publishers of this web site and the owners of said views assume no liability for any ill will resulting from these postings. The posts made here are for educational as well as entertainment purposes and as such anyone viewing this portion of the website must accept these views as statements of the author of that opinion
and agrees to release the authors from any and all liability.
|