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Topic: Terry Gilliam's "BRAZIL" 1985, directors cut (request)
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Stephen Furley
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Posts: 3059
From: Coulsdon, Croydon, England
Registered: May 2002
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posted 05-01-2006 03:40 PM
Mitchell, I don't know for certain, but I think it's unlikely to be cyan unless it was a fairly wide re-release, with a large number of prints struck, as a new track negative would be needed. Most of the prints I'm running are still not cyan, even those which are of mainstream titles, and with prints made in the USA, so the labs are obviously still equipped for track re-development. I doubt that the recording of a new track negative would be thought justified for just a few prints.
Most of the cyan tracks I've run, about twenty now, have been printed by French labs; not necessarily of French films. They seem to be much further down the cyan (brick?) road than US or British labs.
Can't you ask the distributors what type of track it has; or do they employ staff who wouldn't know the difference?
Recently, I've seen an increase in the number of fairly recent films with conventional, i.e. not even high magenta, tracks; I don't know why. I haven't seen any re-prints, or even re-releases with cyan tracks.
Late last year about one 'new' i.e. a few months old, film in three was coming in with a cyan track, but this actually seems to have decreased recently.
I'll be visiting both the Loew's and the Lafayette next month; hope to see you then.
By the way, part of this film was shot in the control room of Croydon 'B' power station, about five minutes by tram from where I work. It had a fairly short life, being built in the '50s, and closing in the early '80s. The site is now an Ikea store, and all that remains are the two chimneys, which is a pity, as it had some rather fine brickwork. I think it was more worthy of preservation than two London power stations which still exist; Bankside, which is now the Tate Modern art gallery, and Battersea, which has been a roofless shell for many years, with various schemes to turn it into something coming to nothing.
There are some pictures of Croydon 'B' here The railway was little used, and closed to be converted into a branch of the Croydon Tramlink system, which opened six years ago, and carries far more passengers than the old railway ever did. The gasholder is still there, and a small, 49MW, gas turbine power station has been built next to it.
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John Pytlak
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Posts: 9987
From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 05-02-2006 08:50 AM
Generally, if the sound negative was optimized for a conventional silver+dye soundtrack, any prints made from that negative will continue to be silver+dye:
http://www.kodak.com/US/en/motion/support/cyan/faq.jhtml?id=0.1.4.15.8.4.10&lc=en
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Can I use the same soundtrack negative to print standard silver, high magenta, and cyan dye print soundtracks?
No specific recommendations have been offered with regard to soundtrack negative density, although the optimum negative density for both the high magenta and cyan dye formats will typically be higher than that used for traditional silver plus dye prints. As always, optimum negative density should be determined for any print format using the cross-modulation test.
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What are the implications for archival film elements stored in preservation vaults?
Black and white prints (with silver tracks of various formats including variable-area and variable-density types) have been reproduced in tests using red LED sound readers with excellent quality, indistinguishable from that produced by white-light readers. Color prints with redeveloped silver-plus-dye sound tracks may experience a little distortion when reproduced with red LED readers, as is the case with current release prints with reveloped silver-plus-dye sound tracks (hence the reason for introducing the compatible High Magenta sound track format). The printing of archived sound negatives, intended for making redeveloped silver-plus-dye sound tracks, to produce cyan dye sound tracks, is currently being evaluated and will be reported on to the Dye Track Committee in due course. It is anticipated that some film processing laboratories will retain the facility to print redeveloped silver-plus-dye sound tracks for some time, to provide this service for film preservation clients.
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