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Topic: Driven
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Brad Miller
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Posts: 17775
From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall)
Registered: May 99
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posted 04-27-2001 05:40 AM
Renny Harlin is at it again, and his latest music video is a piece of .First, if anyone reading this actually knows Renny, please smack him and remind him that he is making a MOVIE and NOT A MUSIC VIDEO! The cinematography was crap. The directing was crap. The acting was crap. And Ray Charles must've mixed the sound. At any single moment in the entire film did I give a shit about the characters? Hmmm, let me think real hard here. Aaaaaaah. Hmmmmmm, geez that's a big NO! Was the cast made up of horrible actors? No, it isn't the cast's fault for the bad performances...it's the directing. I've seen these people in other movies and they performed very well. In Driven they overacted. Check out that fabulous editing and cinematography. (Well, if you want to call it that.) About the only good thing I can say is the movie WAS scope and the colors were excellent. Past that, I think Renny got a half a dozen cameras on the set, placed them all in a row beside each other, and then proceeded to randomly cut back and forth between almost identical shots throughout the dialogue scenes to try and evoke some sort of emotion. Well Renny, it didn't work and like I said before, this ain't no music video. All I have to say is the idea of putting a racetrack announcer in the audio mix was a DAMN GOOD IDEA. If that had not've been in the mix, I would not have been able to tell what the hell was going on, for the storyboard, shots and most importantly that thing they called "editing" was just plain bad. There were sections of the race scenes that went on for 10...15...20 seconds with NOTHING BUT CLOSEUP SHOTS OF THE ACTOR'S EYES, WHEELS SPINNING, THE FRONT OF THE CAR, AND BASICALLY NOTHING BUT THE ANNOUNCER TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WAS GOING ON! Wow is the editing bad on this flick!!! Then there is of course the whole "music video" thing coming into play yet again. Apparently Renny didn't think that a single minute of this flick should pass without music playing. Some scenes which were supposed to be emotional just had us all laughing the music was so overdone. Now assuming you make it to the END of this waste of film, take extra note to the dialogue mix in the final few minutes of the movie. (Yes, just after our "hero" wins the race to make him #1 in the world...or some such nonsense that you will most certainly not care about. Didn't see THAT one coming!) What are they saying? Beats me, because it is buried in the noise of the crowd cheering and the blaring music! Was it the sound system? Nope. After the movie we even checked levels and everything was perfectly on target to Dolby specs. But it isn't just that final scene, the audio mix (in respect to the dialogue levels) on this film is bad throughout. Some scenes the dialogue was too loud and in others it was undiscernable. Apparently the mixers knew this film was so bad that the audience just assumes not hear the script anyway. Oh well, just avoid it.
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Aaron Haney
Master Film Handler
Posts: 265
From: Cupertino, CA, USA
Registered: Jan 2001
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posted 05-01-2001 01:10 AM
Brad, you're not kidding when you say this thing had excellent colors. Wow!! Do all the prints look as colorful as the one I saw? The bright reds of the pit area just jumped out of the screen! And there was another scene in a nightclub with lots of colored lights everywhere that had me drooling. It was almost like a dye-transfer print!I noticed in the end credits that it said "Printed on FujiFilm products". Yes, I'm certain I read that right. It definitely said "printed". Could that have something to do with it? Does Fuji even make release print stocks? In any case, I'd say it's worth seeing this film just to have a look at the colors, assuming all the prints look as good as the one I saw.
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John Pytlak
Film God
Posts: 9987
From: Rochester, NY 14650-1922
Registered: Jan 2000
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posted 05-02-2001 10:48 AM
The "look" of a movie is very much affected by the lighting and use of filtration to control sharpness, contrast and color. Kodak offers many different camera films, offering a wide choice of speed and "look": Kodak Camera Film Data We also offer both KODAK VISION and VISION Premier print films, depending upon the "look" desired in the prints: Kodak VISION Color Print Film 2383 Kodak VISION Premier Color Print Film 2393 Finally, the labs offer variations on the standard processing, which can be used to achieve a certain "look": Processing Techniques "American Cinematographer" magazine has excellent articles that discuss the techniques cinematographers use to achieve the "look" desired: American Cinematographer Magazine Kodak's "In Camera" publication likewise has article about cinematography: Kodak "In Camera" Magazine Free Kodak Newsletters ------------------ John P. Pytlak, Senior Technical Specialist Worldwide Technical Services, Entertainment Imaging Eastman Kodak Company Research Labs, Building 69, Room 7419 Rochester, New York, 14650-1922 USA Tel: 716-477-5325 Cell: 716-781-4036 Fax: 716-722-7243 E-Mail: john.pytlak@kodak.com Web site: http://www.kodak.com/go/motion
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Randy Stankey
Film God
Posts: 6539
From: Erie, Pennsylvania
Registered: Jun 99
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posted 05-25-2001 10:27 PM
I watched part of this movie and walked out. I give it (Four shits)I agree with all the above criticisms so I won't belabor those points. What really bothered me is the complete lack of reality: Formula One cars racing down busy city streets... sucking up manhole covers (which were flat frisbee-like things and not the "dished" ones like in real life)... shooting sparks out the back ends at seemingly random times and for no reason. Now, tell me... how the hell could a car launch a manhole cover, break plate glass windows when they fly by, blow hundreds of newspapers all over the place and yet when a girl's skirt gets "blown up" she isn't killed by the (supposed) shockwave? -- Okay...It's a MOVIE! The laws of physics don't apply. (Unless it's part of the plot.) I'll give you that. But, still... after all this mayhem the cops don't descend upon them and haul them away in a paddy wagon??? They just have this LAME dialogue on the "philosophy of victory" and walk away. It isn't until several minutes that we are inforned by a TV announcer (or something like that) they were "fined $25,000" for this "incident". No... in real life they would be doing at least 90 days in a county jail! Take a look at the cockpit of these "super cars". They have these complicated LED displays attached to the steering wheels. Not only are they too complicated for a driver who is supposed to be paying attention to the road ahead of him, they TURN when the wheel moves, rendering them illegible when the wheel is turned upside down. This reminded me of those sci-fi movies where the space helmets have lights inside them to show the actors' faces. Of course, you would never be able to see out of them from the glare.... but HEY! This is a movie, right? Everything has to look "pretty" and "futuristic" so damn any semblence of reality! Now, for the final blow to reality... one of the cars runs off the track in the afformentioned rain storm. It hits an embankment, flies an impossibly far distance and lands upside down in waist deep water. There is all this talk of the car blowing up because of the leaked fuel. Number one: everybldy KNOWS that Formula One cars run on ALCOHOL! The fuel would be diluted by the water and could NEVER be ignited. Now, when the inevitable explistion DOES happen there is this nice ORANGE fire ball! Alcohol burns with an invisible flame! Then, to add insult to injury, everybody walks away from the crash! This is about the 9,000,000 th time I've said, "This is just a MOVIE!" So why do I keep worrying about it? All of these "fantastic" events are supposed to make you "feel" for the characters. You're supposed to be scared when they are inches away from certain death, right? Well, the incredulity spoils the effect! If I KNOW that they could never be harmed then there is no "relief" at the end of the scene when the characters make it out alive! To tell you the truth I wanted them to DIE but since the events that took place were so implausible I was subjected to yet another let-down!
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