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Doug Willming
Film Handler
Posts: 45
From: San Antonio, TX, USA
Registered: Jan 2001
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posted 11-26-2002 01:37 PM
Well, even my 15 year old twins didn't like it, but then again, they've been raised on Bond films since they were barely walking. Obviously, this is an attempt to create a new Bond movie that appeals to the "Charlie's Angels" and "Triple X" brief-attention-span generation that, if the movie is loud enough and the editing is MTV-like enough, won't notice the non-existence of such things as plot and character. The effects were ludicrous - an Digital Aston-Martin with a cloaking device, Digital Bond parasurfing, Digital Bad Guy sucked into a jet turbine, Bad Guy's Digital Lightning Grip, silly virtual reality simulation that wasn't Digital, on and on. I've always liked the Bond movies for the great stuntwork - in Octopussy, Bond and the Bad Guy were hanging outside an airplane fighting with each other. Yes, you knew it wasn't Roger Moore, and you could tell the stuntman had a parachute under his clothes, but it was a REAL PERSON, HANGING OUTSIDE OF A REAL PLANE. In Die Another Day, everything is Digital - the plane, the smoke, the people, and man, does it ever look stupid! Why use Halle Barry for Bond's partner when Jar Jar Binks would have been more appropriate in this setting (Jar Jar Jinks??)?
Even the opening titles, usually a highlight of Bond films, were awful. Terrible song (and, yes, I thought the sound was dropping out too, at first), and images of torture mixed with Digital Flaming Girls did not whet my appetite for the rest of the film.
Although this film had a big opening weekend, I'll be surprised if it doesn't also have the biggest 2nd weekend drop of any Bond film.
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David Stambaugh
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Posts: 4021
From: Eugene, Oregon
Registered: Jan 2002
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posted 12-08-2002 07:15 PM
12/08/2002, Regal Cinema World 8, Eugene OR, 12:30PM, #6, digital sound (probably DTS). Attendance about 35. OK presentation, no major complaints.
Die Another Day is a moderately successful attempt to move the Bond franchise forward in terms of action, energy, and stunts. It's not without flaws though. As somebody else pointed out, Bond films have always been known for their great stunts, mostly using real props and real people. Unfortunately DAD follows recent moviemaking trends, with heavy use of CGI. And a lot of it is flat out laughably fake. Some of the blue-screen stuff is bad too. Then there are the action sequences that are all close-ups and quick-cuts, very MTV-like. That stuff is all disappointing.
Luckily some of the bad CGI was offset by real stuff blowing up real good. Overall DAD was good enough to keep me interested, and satisfying as an action flic.
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Jack Ondracek
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Posts: 2348
From: Port Orchard, WA, USA
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted 12-15-2002 07:29 PM
We were disappointed in this one, too. The special effects in earlier editions seemed to be made more within the bounds of technology at the time. Either that, or I was far less critical back then. It just seemed that even though we knew they were obviously high tech, the stunts & gadgets were "just" over the top enough to make them really impressive and just about believable. This latest effort tried too hard to create miracles in a studio (or a computer). Spoken lightly, those Arctic parachute scenes were a bit "under funded", and I'd be far more likely to believe in a Klingon cloaking device than that car. To expect us to believe "Q's" explanation that it was done with mirrors or cameras was a bit insulting.
The review carried by our local paper started out with a pan on the digital "bullet" that "Bond" shot at the audience, and went down from there.
No comment on Madonna's "musical" contribution... but we do have a rather new Graemlin here that describes it well enough!
Oh... for those of you who haven't seen the trailer yet, the Charlie's Angels babes will be doing the same "helicopter started from a dead cold while plummeting toward Earth" trick... except that in this attempt, it will be after driving off of the top of a hydroelectric dam... a far lower altitude than was Bond and Berry.... and most likely with far less clothing!
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