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Paul Linfesty
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posted 12-02-2002 06:27 PM
Didn't the Soviet system actually shoot on 70mm negative (as opposed to the west's use of 65mm negative)?
WAR AND PEACE was originally released in the Soviet Union in 4 parts, but in the U.S. parts 1 and 2 became part 1 and parts 3-4 became part two. I don't know if it played during it's orgiginal first-run in the states in 70mm; however, there have been special showings in the U.S. in the 70mm format, including at the American Cinemateque a couple of years ago (maybe earlier? Time flies, unless you're watching this film). Also, an AFI Fest showing in 70mm at the DGA one year.
I'm not sure why IB Techniclor prints would matter here, since the DeLaurentis version of WAR AND PEACE wasn't shot three-strip. AFAIK, dye-transfer prints are rarely used for video transfers, and I'm sure one wasn't used for this job, either.
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Michael Coate
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posted 12-04-2002 03:15 AM
Claude wrote: quote: The 1956 Paramount version with Audrey Hephburn & Henry Fonda is coming out tomorrow (12/3) and the superior 1967 Russian adaption will be released later this month.
There is another DVD edition of the Russian film, released on the Kultur label back in October. I haven't been able to view a copy, so I cannot comment on its quality or if the running time is identical to the Image version. I didn't see any references on the jacket for picture or audio presentation formats.
The Image Entertainment DVD of the Russian film was originally announced for release on December 3, the same day as Paramount's 1956 version. Recently, however, the Image release got moved to December 31.
Paul wrote: quote: I don't know if it played during it's orgiginal first-run in the states in 70mm
I'm surprised you didn't look this up! I believe there was a 70mm engagement in New York during spring 1968 (as well as the occasional special screenings such as the ones you mentioned). I saw this at the American Cinematheque when they ran it a couple years and was certainly glad I went (though to say I wasn't a bit on the tired side after the eight hours or whatever it was would be an understatement).
Claude wrote: quote: "Seps" made from the Eastman color negatives which was the norm from the early fifties to 1974 when "GODFATHER 2", the last IB print was released before the processing and printing equipment was shipped to the People's Republic of China.
Claude, The Godfather Part II was the final production printed in IB Tech *in the U.S.* IB Tech prints continued to be made in England for another few years.
I had the privilege to see a reel from a 1977 British IB Tech print of Star Wars recently, and it still looked fine (and it didn't say Episode IV: A New Hope, either. ). The IB reel sure looked better than the original American-struck, non-IB Tech reel they ran a few weeks ago in L.A. at the Episode II Digital Production Seminar!
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Paul Linfesty
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posted 12-07-2002 08:38 PM
quote: You mean you don't own a copy of The Ultimate Guide To Everything One Needs To Know About Russian Cinema?
No, I haven't been able to find a good reference book on Soviet cinema, but I take this as a recommendation and will try a search. I've seen quite a few Soviet films (War and Peace on ABC MANY years ago (run in 4 parts, I believe). A film class I took( it actually satisfies a Computer Imaging requirement) included Battle of Potemkin. I've also seen IVAN THE TERRIBLE (1 and 2), ALEXANDER NEVSKY, LEGEND OF SURAM FORTRESS (beautiful but plodding)SLAVE OF LOVE (hysterical ending!), some of Tarkovsky's ponderous films, MOSCOW DOES NOT BELIEVE IN TEARS, one about an air conditioning mechanic who goes to a VERY weird town on a job and stumbles across an Elvis museum, another one in which a man hides out in a hammer and cycle monument by a road, ande some others whose names escape me.
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Paul Linfesty
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posted 12-07-2002 10:21 PM
quote: Okay, okay, Widescreen Review... you've referred to that source on numerous other occasions where these types of photography, soundtrack, presentation, roadshow era, etc. topics were being discussed.
OK, as you suggested, I looked it up on "that source," and this is what I found: quote: “War And Peace.” Originally released in the USSR in four parts (totaling 507 min). US 70mm release (at 373 min): April 28, 1968. US reserved seat engagement.
Geez, I hope people don't get the idea that I'm part of WSR's marketing department.
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