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Mike Schindler
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From: Oak Park, IL, USA
Registered: Jun 2002
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posted 05-25-2006 09:54 AM
This movie perfectly captures the essence of Scott Lobdel's run on the comic in the mid-90s. And by that I mean it sucked.
Maybe that's a little too harsh. It wasn't bad so much as it was stupid. As far as mindless action movies go, this one's okay. But the fact that it's a follow up to X2, an extremely smart and well-made movie, just sort of amplifies its flaws.
As far as credits go, I used to be really hardcore about staying through all of them. But then I did the math and figured out that if I watch one movie a day, I'll be sitting through about 30 hours of credits a year! I don't have that much time. Besides, the only ones which are significant to me are writer, director, DP, and editor, so what's the point?
And my theory as to why that scene appears at the end of the credits instead of in the movie itself? The filmmakers' shame was probably a motivating factor.
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Dave Williams
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From: Salt Lake City, UT, USA
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posted 05-25-2006 11:22 AM
This is just a thought, don't take it too personal... but...
The point of spending the time to watch credits is that every single person in the credits worked very hard on that film, whether the film sucked or not, and deserves enough respect to be treated as if they counted, instead of being told that they have no relevant point.
Last I checked, writers, directors, DP's and editors cannot do films such as these on their own. And regardless of if it sucked, the people who broke their backs didn't make it suck, but they still deserve people to recognise that they worked hard and tried.
It is the same reason we don't just huck our trash from our happy meals straight out of our windows and onto the road, or spit on people we walk by on the street, or steal everything in site becase we can. We have respect for those around us, and for ourselves. Or at least we should.
How many times have we as individuals complained because we didn't get the respect we felt we deserved, only to turn around and give absolutely no respect in our own actions?
It is the very least I can do to just stick around a few minutes and pay my respects to those that worked so hard to bring me this movie. Then I follow it up by packing out my garbage and other crap, and thank those hard working ushers as we leave the theater.
It's all about self respect when you reach out to respect the hard work of others.
There are 8760 hours in the course of a non-leap year. If you sleep for one third, and work for one third, then you are left with 2920 hours of personal time. If you spend 30 hours a year watching credits, or in my assertion, paying proper respect for the hard work of hundreds of people in just a few mintues a shot, than this would only take 1.03 percent of your free time.
The people in the credits may not know you are doing it, but the time you take to respect others accomplishments can only build up your own desire to have self respect and require that those around you respect you as much as you do yourself.
As for the film, as this thread has had little to do with the actual film, I am excited to see it. I will not let the the other two films or the lack of Brian Singer to affect my judgement of it. I will allow it to stand on its own. It still might suck, but we will see.
Just a though...
Ciao
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Mike Schindler
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posted 05-25-2006 12:30 PM
I would hope that, more than anything else, the people making movies would think of someone watching their movies as the ultimate form of respect. Not watching credits allows me to watch 15 more movies a year. And while writers, directors, DPs, and editors cannot make movies by themselves, they are, generally speaking, the driving artistic forces behind their movies. I'm not watching the credits out of respect for these individuals. I just want to be able to cross-reference their work. For example, I can see that the writers, director, DP, and editor of SUPERMAN RETURNS all worked on X2. Based on that, I can assume that SUPERMAN RETURNS will kick a noteworthy amount of ass, and I'll be sure not to miss it.
EDIT: The problem with judging X-MEN: THE LAST STAND on its own merits is that it doesn't stand on its own. It relies heavily on what has come before it. It's not going in bold new directions like, say, the Mission: Impossible franchise has done. Instead, it's moving the ongoing saga forward. Well, sort of forward and downward. If you were to graph it, it would probably be at about a 45 degree angle. So maybe that is a new direction. But it's not bold.
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Aaron Garman
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From: Toledo, OH USA
Registered: Mar 2003
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posted 05-25-2006 12:32 PM
Credits are part of the movie: respect them, don't clean during them, and stay for them unless bladder is about to explode.
As for the film, eh. I love X-Men. I thought this was rushed, and taken time with. It could have been great, but the story and some plot points really ticked me off. I won't spoil, but I'm just really mad about a couple things.
All in all, it's ok, and to quote Phil, "I liked it "
AJG
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