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Topic: RoboCop (2014)
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Terry Lynn-Stevens
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From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Registered: Dec 2012
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posted 02-12-2014 09:46 PM
I was anticipating this movie, I didn't see much of the previews and I did not follow much of the press or anything like that.
Overall, it was good, but not great.
The bad: Right off the bat, the MGM logo lion does not roar, it actually sounds like the lion is meowing until you find out what is making the noise. (I thought there was something wrong with the projectors, some people in the theatre were laughing)
Not sure why officer Lewis is now a man. The original RoboCop outfit looked better.
It seemed like every time the movie was going to go in the direction of being great, it just ends up being a let down.
Special effects are pretty good but nothing special.
The good: The few original references from the original movies were good. Joel Kinnaman who played Alex Murphy and his wife were good. The first half was pretty interesting.
Overall, nowhere near as good as the original. I can understand why they took the movie in this direction, but I don't think this reboot will do very well.
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Terry Lynn-Stevens
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From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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posted 03-19-2014 01:08 PM
quote: Marcel Birgelen
So, what's next? A Starship Troopers remake..? Really? There are millions of stories out there... Do we really need the second, third and even fourth iteration of everything?
And do you know what makes Paul Verhoeven's movies special? His cynical take on the stuff at hand, sometimes even falsely interpreted as fascism by the mentally challenged.
While this was a generally better end result than the lackluster remake of Total Recall a year or two back, it still lacked much of the cynicism of the first one, now being replaced by an always-in-your-face motherfucking Samuel L. Jackson...
quote: Mike Blakesley
I think it all comes down to the marketing department. They know they have brand recognition on these old titles so it's easy to get the public excited about the remakes. Then they take the original good story and heap on so many ridiculous over-the-top special effects and hyped-up dialog and ruin it. ("The Taking of Pelham 1-2-3" was a good example.)
If they want to save money on story development, it would be better if they'd find old movies that had good stories but weren't hits. Change the title and get some good talent behind the camera and do 'em right the second time.
Marcel and Mike, the RoboCop remake was a very good idea for SONY, it has now grossed $233 million worldwide on a $100 million budget. The problem with the remake is that it did not resonate with a North America audiences.
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Mike Blakesley
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From: Forsyth, Montana
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posted 03-19-2014 02:50 PM
I don't work for Sony, but I have been around this business long enough to know how it works. It's not a matter of "knowledge," it's just simple math.
- I know that the studios get about half of the boxoffice gross. That's a fact.
- I know that they OFTEN spend around $100 million or more to market a movie, especially when it's a movie they hope to blow out with a huge opening weekend. (Which this one was.) Even if they skimped out on the marketing (which they didn't) it would still have cost them $40 million or more.
There is no way they're in the black yet on this movie if it's grossed $233 million worldwide. With that gross, they've taken in about $116 million in rentals. Do you actually think they marketed and distributed the movie for $16 million?
You apparently also know the ages of all the people I have talked to about Robocop, or you think that I only talk to people my own age. Believe it or not, we get customers of all age groups. I also have 8 teenage employees who I do talk to on a regular basis about movies, and who are a great gauge of how popular something is going to be with the teen crowd. The "excitement" level about "Robocop" was the same regardless of what age people I visited with. Also not one person has asked me "when are you getting Robocop?" which is another very reliable popularity indicator for me. As a contrast, people left and right are asking me when "Divergent" is coming.
Do you think only "old" people have seen the original? It's been around on video for quite a number of years. Some people do watch old movies on video, y'know. Old movies are also on TV all the time -- in fact they probably played the old "Robocop" on various TV services during the weeks leading up to the new one's release. I believe that's why a lot of remakes flop.... because everybody's seen the old one to death and they don't care about a new one.
I do agree with you that they might break even on this movie, but it won't be until after video and other ancillary sales are added to the mix. That doesn't make it a "good idea" for them -- I doubt that anyone's going to win "employee of the month" over this flick.
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