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Topic: The Amazing Spider-Man 2 (2014)
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Terry Lynn-Stevens
Phenomenal Film Handler
Posts: 1081
From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Registered: Dec 2012
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posted 05-04-2014 11:14 AM
quote: Jonathan Goeldner
curious to see the box office numbers come out Monday for the weekend gross.
Friday numbers: $35,500,000 intake / 4,324 screens / $8,210 average per screen
It really is Amazing how Spider-mans first shows are just getting started today, yet the box office performance has already been determined for the weekend.
http://www.deadline.com/2014/05/amazing-spider-man-2-box-office-opening-big-debut/
quote: Marcel Birgelen
All in all, I have the distinct feeling people are slowly getting tired of all those comic superhero movies. Especially Marvel is on their way of over-saturating the market...
LOL, I highly doubt that. The box office performance is proving otherwise.
On another note, is this the first SONY movie to use the new SONY logo intro before the Colombia Pictures logo?
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Marcel Birgelen
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From: Maastricht, Limburg, Netherlands
Registered: Feb 2012
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posted 05-04-2014 04:46 PM
Hey Terry,
Have another sip!
It's been out in large parts of the world since April 24th. The Friday evening show (on the 25th) I attended was nowhere near a sellout. For an average movie, the crowd was certainly not bad, but for a $200M production, you would expect more. It will probably not end up being a box office disaster, but neither a record breaker either.
quote: Mike Blakesley
The one I'm dreading this summer is the Transformers movie. I was about ready to pull the remaining hair out of my head after 2 weeks of listening to that last noisy crapfest.
Personally, I've never liked those big budget, overproduced, overly loud and "faux-epic" Michael Bay productions where everything is teal and orange. And the whole Transformers movie franchise has been one grotesque string of Michael Bay-ness...
After the last one, I really expected they would finally let the franchise cool down for a while.
A trilogy once was the golden rule of sequels. And at least for me personally, that still feels right. If you do have a franchise with strong characters, a compelling setting and still some stories to tell that matter, three movies just feel like the right amount... Everything extra is just milking it dry, just to grab that last remaining bundle of potential cash that's left in it.
It's unfortunate that potentially hurting or even killing the franchise, that many hold dear, in the process doesn't really matter to those who own the rights to it.
quote: Buck Wilson
I love it. I try to make a point to see every feature in Dolby Atmos in that house. It doesn't give me a headache like IMAX does.
The Atmos mix in this one is quite OK, but not the best I've heard until now. It has a few opportunities to bring the top speakers to good use though.
Digital IMAX gives me that apres-rock-concert feeling, but usually with a bad twist, because there was no beer*... So, it only leaves some-kind of pounding feeling in your head, but no alcohol in your veins to compensate...
* The local Digital IMAX venues actually sell beer, but I've never seen anybody drinking beer during an IMAX show...
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Terry Lynn-Stevens
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posted 05-04-2014 07:31 PM
quote: Marcel Birgelen
It will probably not end up being a box office disaster, but neither a record breaker either.
No its not going to be a box office disaster. Marcel, why does it have have to set a record? The original Spider-man set a opening weekend record because it was the first Spider-man movie, it was a new idea and it was the first real mainstream kids Marvel film (X-Men is more for adults). What is holding the movie back (and more importantly SONY back) is that SONY does not have any other Marvel characters to expand it on. $92 million this past weekend for North America is nothing to be ashamed of. Of course the 5th movie for SONY is not going to exceed the first one.
Marcel said earlier:
quote: Marcel Birgelen
All in all, I have the distinct feeling people are slowly getting tired of all those comic superhero movies. Especially Marvel is on their way of over-saturating the market...
All in all, your feelings are wrong. In less than 40 calendar days, both Captain America 2 and Amazing Spider-Man 2 have grossed a combined $1 billion+ at the world wide box office. In fact Captain America 2 far exceeded the take of the first one. You need to go back and look up Thor 2 from November, it too exceeded the take of the original Thor.
quote: Marcel Birgelen
After the last one, I really expected they would finally let the franchise cool down for a while.
Why in the world you want to do that? Transformers 3 grossed $1.1 billion dollars world wide, there is clearly a demand for it. The global take of the three is close to $2.8 billion and each sequel has out done the predecessor. Making movies and showing movies is about making money.
I will agree that the second and third installments sucked.
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Mike Blakesley
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From: Forsyth, Montana
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posted 05-04-2014 09:22 PM
quote: Terry Lynn-Stevens
All in all, your feelings are wrong.
Nope, he's right. Here's an article from Boxoffice Mojo, which you won't agree with since you didn't post it, but whatever:
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Franchise Fatigue Weighs Down 'Amazing Spider-Man 2'
by Ray Subers
May 4, 2014
The Amazing Spider-Man 2 scored one of the best debuts of the year, but wasn't nearly as amazing as past outings in the Spider-Man franchise.
Of course, the movie is doing significantly stronger business overseas. So far, it's earned $277 million, and has a good chance of matching its predecessor's $490 million total.
At the domestic box office, the sequel to the 2012 reboot opened to an estimated $92 million. That's a bit lower than Captain America: The Winter Soldier's $95 million debut last month. It is higher than Thor: The Dark World ($85.7 million), and is also above 2009 summer kick-off X-Men Origins: Wolverine ($85.1 million).
Compared to other outings in the Spider-Man series, though, this is a disappointing debut. It's tough to compare this to the first Amazing Spider-Man, which opened on a Tuesday ahead of the Fourth of July weekend. The best comparable titles are the first and third movie in Sam Raimi's original trilogy, which also debuted on the first weekend of May. Those opened to $114.8 million and $151.1 million, respectively, with much lower average ticket prices and no 3D premiums.
The Spider-Man character clearly remains very popular — if that weren't the case, it couldn't have possibly reached $90 million. It's abundantly clear, though, that this franchise has to some extent worn out its welcome with moviegoers.
To justify its existence so soon after the Raimi series, the 2012 reboot needed to be great; unfortunately, reactions were generally mixed. It was also the lowest-grossing entry yet at the domestic box office with $262 million (down 22 percent from the last entry).
To stop the bleeding, the second outing threw a ton of villains at Spider-Man, though that approach had its pros and cons (Electro looked silly, while Green Goblin felt redundant). Marketing wasn't quite able to overcome the "been there, done that" feeling that's accompanied this reboot series.
There was also an expectation that The Amazing Spider-Man 2 would be propped up by its Summer kick-off release date. Unfortunately, Captain America: The Winter Soldier seems to have stolen some of its thunder there. Reviews didn't help either, as it wound up being the worst-reviewed Spider-Man movie yet.
According to Sony, the audience was 61 percent male and 51 percent under the age of 25. That's younger than the typical audience for a superhero movie, and family attendance (33 percent) likely had something to do with this.
The long-term prospects at the domestic box office aren't great. The movie received a so-so "B+" CinemaScore, which suggests word-of-mouth will be only a bit better than the reviews. The Amazing Spider-Man 2 will likely fall off quickly in the coming weeks, and is essentially guaranteed to be the lowest-grossing entry yet in the franchise. Based on the pattern of other May openers, The Amazing Spider-Man 2 should finish with around $230 million.
Boxoffice Mojo
Of course there's no "requirement" that each movie should set records, but every one of these movies HOPES to set records. Our crowds here are definitely NOT amazing. We have yet to be even half full for a show, which is VERY unusual for a fanboy-type movie. The feeling is definitely "Another Spider-Man movie? Seriously?"
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Bobby Henderson
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From: Lawton, OK, USA
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posted 05-04-2014 11:27 PM
Cinema: Harkins Theatres Bricktown 16
Screen: Cine Capri
Format: 2D, Dolby Atmos - $8.00 per ticket. Yay.
Presentation Problems: None
Rating: 2 stars out of 4
My girlfriend, Cynthia and I watched a 4:15pm matinee show in downtown Oklahoma City. The crowd in the theater was pretty light. I didn't know if that had to do with lack of enthusiasm for yet another Marvel movie sequel or if everyone downtown was more interested in gathering at Chesapeake Arena to watch the Oklahoma City Thunder defeat the Memphis Grizzlies in Game 7.
This sequel just couldn't get its legs underneath it to generate any momentum. The on again and off again love story thing didn't get me involved. Paul Giamatti was wasted in what amounted to a cameo role. The Green Goblin portion seemed like a footnote, even though it had a big impact on the end of the movie. That actor seems like an also ran version of Leonardo DiCaprio. The very cliched story line with Max/Electro didn't do much for me apart from the visuals and sound effects (I call it cliche for the blatant stereotypical nerd cartoon character bullshit thing which shouldn't be in any TV show or movie anymore because it just isn't realistic at all).
The movie should have picked just one villain and stuck with just that storyline. They should have lightened up on all the love story crap, regardless of what the focus group dummies say about pulling in the female audience.
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And just what point did it serve to kill off Emma Stone's character at the end of the movie? To me it smelled like a contract thing, as if her agent said, "this is the last superhero thing she is going to do for a long time."
Andrew Garfield is a good actor. I really enjoyed his work in The Social Network. Honestly, I've had a real hard time buying him as Spiderman/Peter Parker. My girlfriend, Cynthia said right off the bat after the movie was finished that she preferred Tobey Maguire as Spiderman. I guess the thing I really didn't like about Garfield's performance was all this bullshit, hipster poseur nonsense he kept doing throughout the movie, pouting yet trying to look cool or ironic as he entered so many scenes. I wanted to slap him upside his head and tell him to cut out that pretentious shit. Act like a normal person for Pete's sake!
Overall, the movie just had this kind of feeling to it like it was a bunch of assembled clip art resembling a story rather than a real movie.
Presentation wise it was pretty good. I don't know if the projector in the Cine Capri is 2K or 4K. We didn't sit close enough to the screen to be able to tell for sure. My lady likes sitting up high in the farther back rows. At least this big screen had curtains and masking, and was common height, not idiotic common width.
I thought the Dolby Atmos mix was okay, but not all that astounding. The mix had a decent number of cues to let people know it was more than mere 5.1 or 7.1, but it was sort of odd in how it did it. I heard the most Atmos style action with Max/Electro's insane inner voice chants echoing all over the surround field. Parts of the music mix were moved into various points of the surround field as well. This mix was still somewhat subtle as far as immersive surround sound formats go.
I watched the end credits to see what would be listed in the sound format stuff. This was the first time I saw the Auro logo listed in movie end credits. The Dolby Atmos logo had the preferred single line treatment (making all the letters bigger). I don't recall seeing anything about IMAX though.
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