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Terry Monohan
Master Film Handler

Posts: 379
From: San Francisco CA USA
Registered: May 2014


 - posted 03-15-2015 12:10 PM      Profile for Terry Monohan   Email Terry Monohan   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Saw this old 1989 film doc yesterday with It's new digital release on Blue Ray at the Great Star Theatre (1928) on Jackson St in Chinatown in San Francisco CA. Out of 6 Chinese movie theatres in SF this is the only one still left. What a great little film about the once thriving Chinese night clubs in San Francisco in the 40's, 50's and 60's. Some great film footage of all the performers shot at the club. Many of these dinner/show club buildings are still around today in SF's Chinatown area on Grant St. They had a live stage show after the film and introduced some of the original stars of the 'Forbidden City' night club that were in the audience. The director Arthur Dong was on stage also. He has come out with a new table book now in 2015 Forbidden City USA by Deep Focus Productions. It has all the stars and photos/menus/ads from not only the SF club but many other Chinese night clubs around the USA. This is a good film to book or buy for showing at senior home places or cities that still have a large senior Asian population. By the way the Great Star Theatre was run by the Shaw Brothers starting in 1960 and they played all their Kung movies on the big screen. It is used today for Chinese opera and movie rentals.

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Jim Cassedy
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From: San Francisco, CA
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In my collection of "Old San Francisco Stuff" I have several matchbooks
and menus that came from the original Forbidden City nightclub:
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Forbidden City is one of my favorite films, and I've owned a copy for years.
I've met & worked with Arthur Dong on several occasions, and in fact, I'll
be doing all the projection & tech-work at his next San Francisco
appearance this Friday night at NPC in Japantown.

The "Great Star" is an interesting time capsule of San Francisco Theater
history.

I believe that 'back in the day" they had both films and live shows there
because there is a complete "fly loft" for scenery flats above the stage.

The original (un-perforated) silent film screen is still hanging up there!

There are also a number of old scenery flats stored up in some 'loft wings'
located above and on either side of the stage.

As was mentioned, the place was once owned & operated by the Shaw
Brothers, and in the 1960's & 70's they showcased all their films there.

There's a whole stash of their films in the basement of the Great Star.
Many of them are IB Tech prints. Unfortunately, the films were stored in
the same room as building's the fire pumps and emergency water tank,
which at some point in the past apparently sprung a leak, partially flooding
the room, and so now the prints are useless, since mold has almost totally
eaten away all of the organic dyes used in the emulsion.


In 2005 or 2006, I was contacted by the owners to come in and give them
an estimate of what it would cost to get their film projection equipment
running again. At that time the Great Star had been shuttered for several
years, and only used occasionally for Chinese Operas and special events.

They they hadn't projected film for almost 7 years. Pigeons had actually
gotten in through a broken window and built a nest in one corner of the booth.
The place was a mess! Some equipment had been ripped out, and there were
a lot of bare wires everywhere.

The owners had given me keys to for building access,and when I first went
in, all the power was turned off since the building had been unoccupied
for some time. I had to get one of my Chinese buddies to come down to the
theater with me & help me turn on the circuit breakers because everything
was labeled in Chinese, and there were definitely some circuits I did
not want to energize!

Here are some pictures taken on one of those visits about 10yrs ago:

One of the projectors. Note the "rats nest" of wiring above.
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The booth had been closed up for almost 7 yrs when these pictures were taken.
The schedule for the last film show they did was still hanging on the wall. It was dated 1999,and was all in Chinese.
I have a photo of it. According to a friend who can read
Chinese
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This is the amp rack. They sound system was still full mono,
with phototube soundheads. I believe the amps were old TOA's,
and everything was labeled in Chinese. (Which is what you'd
expect to find at a Chinese theatre..... in Chinatown!)
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Also in the basement, there was still an entrance to one of those old
tunnels that used to go under Chinatown. There are all sorts of wild
stories about the tunnels being used for everything from drug & sex slave
trafficking or that they lead to illegal underground opium dens and
gambling parlors. Other say they were simply used to take out the trash.
I don't know, but the tunnels make for some interesting stories & legends.

I was tempted to explore the tunnel a bit, but:
1) there was no lighting and the batteries in my mag-light were getting
weak from a full day's use exploring the theatre.

2) It was dank and dark and stank somewhat of sewage and rodent dung;
(Have you ever seen the size of the rats in Chinatown? I didn't want
to encounter one (or more) of them in an old, dark tunnel! [Eek!] )

I've head that the tunnel has since been walled up.

I love the Great Star!

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Terry Monohan
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Thanks so much Jim for the photos and info. I have a question for you. Last Sat was my first time in the Star, the rugs had been taken out and I found the side walls inside just plain cement but did notice small lights in the ceiling above the side walls like they may have had black light art on the walls at one time or curtains? Also the ceiling had these ugly plain white (looked like 1960 kitchen light bulb lights) hanging from the roof. The Shaws may have put them in. I don't think these were the lights that hung in the 40'a/50's. Also the stage drapes looked new but they did not use them on Sat. The rental screen they used had many creases on It so the image projected on a cheap video projector did not look good. No black level, washed out blacks looked grey. The sound were from rental speakers and they did sound good. Around the stage front they had small color bulbs but they did not turn on. Another question Jim, as Mr Dong shot this Forbidden City film in 1989 was It shot in 16mm, 35mm or video? I think PBS helped with the funding. I know It had It's opening in 1989 at the Palace Of Fine Arts Theatre with many of the stars in house in SF one month after the 1989 earthquake. Dick Bartel ran the film booth at that time at the Palace. I bought a copy this past Sat at the Star on Blue Ray DVD, I think the quality will look better then the 1989 showing. Jim we must get together some time so I can show you some of my SF movie theatre things and poster/16mm collection. Again thanks for sharing your photos with us. By the way all the old projectors from the booth at the Star are on display in the small lobby. Hope they can bring back the candy stand in the lobby as many of us wanted something cold to drink on a hot SF day. They had no treats to sell. Long live the Great Star Theatre San Francisco CA.USA

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Jim Cassedy
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Terry-
The last time I was at the Great Star, which was about 7 years ago, the
downstairs walls were covered with some sort of pleated fabric, almost
exactly the same stuff that's on the walls at The Balboa in San Francisco.
I also remember it was in bad shape- - some of it having been eaten
away in spots by moths or mold. (Or both!)

The upstairs walls in the balcony were bare cement or stucco if I recall.

The ceiling lights are VERY "1960's", and probably put in when Shaw Bros
ran the place. Frank Lee, who owns & runs The 4 Star theater in SF and
grew up in Chinatown tells me that there used to be sort of "Chinese
Lantern" style of chandeliers. You can see the those 60's lighting fixtures
in the photo below, and also the bulbs around the proscenium, that you
mentioned, which were apparently working when I took this picture in
October of 2008:
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The Great Star is mostly used for live Chinese cultural events now, but
I've heard from several sources that when they do show some sort of
video there, that the projection & picture are horrible.

To answer your other question- "Forbidden City" was shot on 16mm.
I once worked on a project with Curtis Choy, who did the sound recording
for "Forbidden City" and he was telling me what a delight all those old
performers were to interview and work with. It's sad many are gone now.

I dug through my archives, and here's a picture of just some of the old
film that was piled up in one of several rooms in the basement that
I mentioned in my last post. (2005 photo)
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Most of these are Shaw Bros films. Unfortunately, due to a water leak
and the constant dampness, every reel I looked at was covered with mold:
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Part of my previous post got corrupted, and it was too late for me to
go back & edit it.

What I wanted to say was that in 2005, the film schedule for the last day
they ran film was still hanging on the wall. It was dated July 1999, and
was all in Chinese. I have a photo of it, and a friend of mine who can
read Hanji tells me that their schedule on the final day was a double
feature of two Hong Kong films. One was called "Where A Good Man Goes".
The 2nd film doesn't translate cleanly to English, but a literal translation
of the tilte is "The King Of Debt Collecting Agency".

WoW! - "Actual Photo" This was hanging in the projection room.
(2005 Photo)
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You can find both these titles on IMDB, and I was able to confim that
that indeed was the Great Star's last 35mm show, since there were still
a wholebuncha of 1999 newspapers in the booth and managers office!!

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Terry Monohan
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Wow thanks again Jim for all these great photos and information about the Great Star Theatre. I may go again today 3/17 4PM as they are showing a doc film on the many Chinese theatres that SF had at one time. They open up next week for a music stage type show for the tourists. Last Sat I went up to the former loge area upstairs and saw a gray cat, must be a pet of one of the stage crew working the spotlights. You won't find any rats left with her around the Great Star.

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