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Topic: Avengers: Endgame
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Scott Jentsch
Phenomenal Film Handler
Posts: 1061
From: New Berlin, WI, USA
Registered: Apr 2003
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posted 04-27-2019 06:52 PM
I didn't like Avengers: Infinity War. Some found its ending brave, but I found it to be a cheat, because none of what happened was going to stick. But, I held out hope that perhaps it would be a better movie once the second part was told, and that's what brings us all to Avengers: Endgame.
Fortunately for all of us viewers, Endgame does a pretty decent job of digging the MCU out of the hole it was in after Infinity War. The first scene was better than most of the entire movie that preceded it.
While some contortions have to made in order to do that digging, I can't think of any other way they could have done it. The hole was just too deep. The final battle does suffer from a deus ex machina moment, but it fortunately doesn't end there, and the resolution is actually quite well-done.
When the credits roll, it leaves the viewer with some character arcs complete, with others just beginning, or at least changing direction.
If you're a big fan, you've probably already seen the movie. If you're a casual fan, wondering whether to see it in the theater or wait for the home video release, I have to say that this is a movie that deserves the best viewing environment possible. The visuals are very good, and the sound is incredible. If you don't have your insides rattled about, the theater didn't do its job, and you should complain to the manager. Seeing this movie on a flat-screen TV with a soundbar is just not going to be the same experience.
Will I watch this again? Probably. I might even buy it. That's more than can be said for Infinity War, though. While this movie redeemed the Avengers storyline overall, I still have no desire to see that movie again, even with its conclusion as a known quantity.
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Marcel Birgelen
Film God
Posts: 3357
From: Maastricht, Limburg, Netherlands
Registered: Feb 2012
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posted 04-28-2019 05:36 PM
The room I've watched this in was packed, almost to the brim. The theater clearly wasn't prepared to the crowds this would draw, as they had sold out almost all of their concessions only halfway through the evening.
The location was CineStar Düsseldorf in Germany. I've been there before and the performance was usually OK. It's a standard, 13 in a dozen multiplex, but they show movies in their original version, which is already pretty special for a big multiplex in Germany, where most theaters show the dubbed version. (And yes, I hate dubbed versions, even for movies where I don't speak the languages involved.)
We had some prime seats in the room, but we had to give them up, because there was some water leaking through the air conditioning vents. It was just a drop or two every odd minute, but since you didn't know where the water was coming from, we didn't want to take the risk.
The way the situation was handled was less than stellar though. We had to find our own new seats, only to be chased away again and again, because those who booked them, tended to show up a while later. This was not our choice, this was the official "plan" from the management. The whole experience was extremely frustrating, to the point that we almost walked away. Not giving any kind of compensation for such a bad show is also pretty abysmal service level. Eventually, we found a bunch of seats almost in front of the silver screen, reflecting all kinds of "goodness" from that rather odd angle...
What they should've done was to stop selling tickets to this show, get somebody with a tablet or printout with the seat reservations and assigning new, unassigned seats to those in the affected area. Seemingly, you need a half functioning brain for such a master-plan... Heck, even I could open the seat reservation site on their website on my mobile phone, that's how we eventually found those empty seats anyway...
Also, this whole water-leak episode postponed the start of the show for about 15 minutes. Maybe, just as a matter of courtesy, you could've skipped the commercials? Or... the stupid "Ice Cream Break", where they put on a slide of ice cream commercials for 5 minutes for stuff that was completely sold out anyway...
After my rant about yet another failed theater visit (guys, you really need to step up a notch, this is costing you repeat visitors), let's get back to the movie itself.
I've never been committed to the current Marvel universe, though most of the movies have been good for the industry, as in they've sold a lot of tickets, which is still one of the most important measures. With this movie signaling somewhat of an end for the current Marvel universe, I hope for a fresh start that doesn't involve any reboot in the following 20 or so years...
To be honest, I expected to be bored a lot more than that I ended up to be. With the rather extreme running time of this movie, what kind of compelling story could you tell that wasn't already told in this universe? Yet, I ended up being mostly entertained, although a lot of this was eventually nothing more than a big accumulation of flashbacks, engineered to push some sentimental buttons.
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The story, is nevertheless pretty predictable, especially if you've watched all the movies that lead up to this one. After what happened in Infinity War, it was pretty clear they couln't finish the series the way this movie ended. The only way to solve this, would be pulling a "Back to the Future" on it, which eventually, they did.
My wife, who is a lot more emotionally invested into those Marvel characters, didn't like quite a few aspects of the movie. Obviously, everybody wants to see "their" superheroes more in the limelight than others.
Her biggest gripe was about the fact that Tony Stark got the big, "Royal", Big-Fish-esque funeral, whereas the death of Black Widow was more of a "bummer moment" in the whole movie.
It remains interesting to see how well trained those Marvel movie-goers are. I guess that almost 80% of the room stayed to see if there is something worthwhile after the credits.
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Sam Graham
AKA: "The Evil Sam Graham". Wackiness ensues.
Posts: 1431
From: Waukee, IA
Registered: Dec 2004
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posted 04-28-2019 09:41 PM
CINEMA: Megaplex at Jordan Commons, Sandy, UT AUDITORIUM: 14, SEAT: H13 PRESENTATION: Megaplex Recline-o-Vision with butt warmers and Texas Instruments DLP Digital PRESENTATION PROBLEMS: Dark picture RATING: Three stars (out of four)
THE PLOT: Iron Man is lost in space. DANGER IRON MAN! Wackiness ensues.
God, this thing goes on forever. It just goes and goes and goes some more. Just like Infinity War. But at least it’s more fun and has a real ending. Oh, and an actual war.
For the core Marvel geeks, this movie is like the greatest multiple orgasm sex ever. For the rest of us, it’s understandable, often fun, sometimes touching, sometimes showing blatant plot holes, but you won’t be mad you came. You probably won’t want to sit through it again though.
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Frank Cox
Film God
Posts: 2234
From: Melville Saskatchewan Canada
Registered: Apr 2011
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posted 06-17-2019 01:34 AM
One of my regular customers (he comes to about 80% of the movies that I play here) is the only person that I know of who's ever noticed that I amuse myself by inventing connections between the music that I play before/after the show and the content of the movie. A few years ago he noticed a connection that I can't remember right now and asked me if it was deliberate. I said, "Of course", and ever since he has made a game out of trying to figure out the connection between the movie and the music. If there is one. Sometimes I just play random stuff when I can't think of anything particularly clever and after being in the auditorium for a while before the show he'll eventually come out to ask me if there's a "theme" for this week's movie and when I tell him it's just random this week he always says, "You're evil, Frank, just evil".
He's gotten pretty good at it. He even figured out why I played 70's music for Poms. (The music is from the 70's, the stars are all in their 70's. Yeah, I know it's silly but as I've said before, I amuse myself with this stuff.)
Anyway, this week I'm playing a CD set called "The War Years: Big Band Era" with Avengers Endgame. After a while he came out and asked me if I had a theme this week and I said that I do. "But you'll have to wait until the end of the movie to figure this one out."
A few minutes before I started the show he came out and said, "They go back in time to the 40's at the end of the show."
I told him that he'll have to wait until the end of the show to find out.
On his way out he said, "And so I've beat you again!"
He's still the only person who's ever noticed that I do this sort of thing.
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