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Topic: Manager/Operators?? Good,Bad or just Ugly?
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Scott D. Neff
Theatre Dork
Posts: 919
From: San Francisco, CA
Registered: Oct 1999
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posted 06-20-2000 01:20 PM
I run a 4-plex - and as often as possible we schedule a projectionist.We have a union guy 2 nights a week - a non union guy who REALLLLY wants to learn all he can, he works 4 nights a week, and then we fill in the rest. Except MONDAY... MONDAY is Manager day. It's really TOOOO slow to afford a separate position. Besides - if I work that day it's my day to go upstairs and check that all the projectionists have been doing what they're supposed to be doing. If a manager is trained properly in BOTH aspects of their job, projection AND operations, then they should be organized enough to handle the booth and the floor. But hey - I've been manager / operator for the last 5 years and I can run the floor and build up a movie, change trailers and do all the Thursday night paperwork. Of course I'm completely nuts by the end of the night, but it CAAAANNNN be done. ------------------ Scott D. Neff ---------------- www.cinema-west.com
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Richard C. Wolfe
Master Film Handler
Posts: 250
From: Northampton, PA, USA
Registered: Apr 2000
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posted 06-20-2000 10:19 PM
Manager/operators?Can it be done well? Yes in certain situations. Single screen and twins - no problem if the booth isn't hidden away from the rest of the theatre. Once you get to three screens I think there should be a projectionist on duty at all times. Like Mike, my theatre is laid out in such a way that it is very easy. The theatre as built in the twenties originally had no access to the booth from the theatre proper. You had to go outside and in the vestibule leading to the 2nd floor apartments. Once upstairs, you entered the booth across the hall from one of the apartments. The managers office was up there as well. Once the box office and concession stand closed there was no one on the floor to see what was going on, unless you paid an usher to stay till close. I took space from one of the rental stores and created a nice roomy office just off the main lobby where I could see anyone who entered the theatre, and could hear everything that goes on in the concession stand as well. By stealing a little space from one of the 2nd floor apartments I was able to have a staircase go directly from my office into the booth. I can hear everything running, and if anything unusual happens...I know it right away and can be up there in five seconds. As I use two machines with 6000' reels, I never need to be there when I'm needed on the floor. I only go up for a couple of minutes to start the show. Most of the work is done before opening or in the middle of shows. I also use the Eprad co-operators for changeovers, and they never fail. I've been using them for over twenty years now. If I had an operator it would be a total waste of money, and this theatre would be closed, as that extra expense would be just too much to afford. NOW HAVING SAID THAT...I truly would not want to run a 4 Plex or larger without a full time projectionist. I would want to know, amd have the peace of mind, that there was someone up there keeping things going as they should be. As an owner I want to be downstairs attending to that which I'm best suited. I don't understand the arguement that they can't afford to have a full time operator in a 10 plex. I would think they can't afford not to! Let's look back a few years...ok, a whole bunch of years...back in the mid sixties when I got started in this biz. If you had 10 theatres in town you would of had 10 managers, 10 assn't managers and about 25 union operators to cover all the shifts for those 10 auditoriums scattered around town. A total of aprox. 45 people to cover management and projection. Now with 10 screens under one roof they want to replace 45 people with two or three. And only one at a time! How cheap can they get?
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George Roher
Master Film Handler
Posts: 266
From: Washington DC
Registered: Jul 99
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posted 06-20-2000 11:50 PM
I also have to agree with Mark. Manager-operated theatres (though some are good) are a very bad idea. There certainly are people who can pull it off and do an excellent job, like some of our fellow film-techers (who I have great respect for), but they are the exception and not the rule. I think the main problem is that many managers are forced into the booth (with no extra pay) and really don't like it. They just want to manage, that is the job they like. The booth is just this annoying thing they have to deal with in order to keep their job as manager. So they spend as little time in the booth as possible, never learn much beyond getting the show on screen, never clean or maintain equipment etc. I have shared booths with managers who destroyed my prints and equipment. For every man-op theatre lucky enough to have someone caring and talented like Tom or Brad, there are a hundred more that are pure garbage. It's very difficult to find people who are interested in good film presentation who are willing to work as a man/op. Projection and management require two different sets of skills and different mindsets. It's easier to find people well suited to one of the two then it is to find people who can do both well. And even with an exceptionally talented film handler managing a theatre, there can be major problems that aren't caught or fixed as fast as they would be if the booth was constantly manned. Sure it can be done (I have a friend who is a good man/op), but that doesn't mean it should be done. In the majority of cases quality will be better with projection treated as a separate, professional position. Another thing that really bugs me are theatres that really DO have a dedicated person in the booth most of the time, but go through this elaborate charade to create the illusion that they have no "projectionist". Near the end of my tour of duty at GCC, my paychecks started listing me as the maintenance man, because the managers didn't want the home office to know how many hours they were giving to operators. Anyone who stays in the booth and only runs film is a "projectionist" or "motion picture machine operator" and should not be called anything else.
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Dave Cutler
Master Film Handler
Posts: 277
From: Centennial, CO
Registered: Jun 2000
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posted 07-10-2000 07:43 PM
OK, I just have to put in my two cents on this issue.IMHO: Manager/Operators are a terrible for any theatre larger than a 6-plex. Even then it should be a slow 6-plex, not one that does a lot of business, and all theatres should staff at least one knowledgeable projectionist to keep things in tip-top condition. The problems with Manager/Operators have been well pointed out so far, so I won't go in depth. My main beef is that MOST (not all) Managers don't have the time or the desire to learn about proper projection technics. They are Managers, that's what they are, most that I know are not technically inclined people but man they run great theatres. Me I am a projectionist, I don't want to run a theatre, I am a technical person. I have a desire to learn everything about every mechanical and eletrical system that I use, most managers just don't like that type of work. The idea of combining two opposite personalities is just bad. FEW can handle it, but most of them would rather do one or the other and not both.
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Zach Zagar
Film Handler
Posts: 45
From: Jefferson City, MO
Registered: Mar 2000
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posted 07-10-2000 10:50 PM
I've had the manage/run booth at a semi-busy 7-plex, ON OCCASION (call offs, etc). Its an accomplishment to do it, you feel good about it.I think, at some slower theaters, on weekdays (non-summer or Xmas), it can be done, with great efficiency, as long as you have dedicated weekend projectionists, who can pick up the slack with some cleaning and preventative maintenance. There's just so much lack of detail to the sad, sad, projection booth if there's one person running the theater, who also has to run the floor. Extreme circumstances... brain wrap, causes burn through... you have 300 angry people, and a movie that's not running... WHAT DO YOU DO? WHAT DO YOU DO? Glad we all agree. It can be done, if you're a God, or are forced to, but it SHOULDN'T be done.
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